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The Shadow People

The Shadow People

By: Nigel Hall Derrick Freeman
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Welcome to The Shadow People, a podcast where New Orleans musicians Nigel Hall and Derrick Freeman bring their unfiltered, unapologetic, and often hilarious takes on politics, music, sports, and the chaos of life. From behind-the-scenes tales of musician life to spirited debates about controversial internet comments and the state of pop culture, The Shadow People keeps it real, raw, and unpredictable. Whether you're here for the jokes, the insight, or just to feel like you're hanging with two of NOLA's finest, this is the podcast you didn’t know you needed.Nigel Hall, Derrick Freeman Music
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  • The Shadow People Ep27 - Cokeheads in Charge and Tribute Yourself
    Nov 24 2025

    Back in the studio after a couple months on the road, Nigel and Derrick get right to it. Nigel’s fresh off Europe, Australia, Tokyo, Hawaii, and a stop at Hyde Street Studios in San Francisco, and the contrast between “the world” and “home” hits hard. The fellas talk travel whiplash, culture shock, and why San Francisco’s reputation does not match the Tenderloin reality, even if the city’s still got magic and history all over it.Then the episode flips into a full Nigel sermon. First on the state of the country and the clown parade running things, then into a deep, personal rant about D’Angelo’s passing and the tribute machine that turns on the second somebody dies. Nigel is not here for fake flowers, sloppy cover bands, or performative grief. His point is simple and heavy. If an artist changed you, honor them by building your own work, while you are alive, while they are alive, and while the chance to mean something is still on the table. If you want to mourn, mourn. If you want to celebrate, create. And if you are waiting for permission, stop waiting.Timestamps0:00 Nigel returns, no guest today, the gang back together2:00 Nigel on the country getting dumber and leadership looking worse by the day3:20 Wild FBI press conference and Nigel’s cokehead radar goes off7:30 History repeating itself and everybody in power looking high12:45 Travel recap Europe, Australia, Tokyo, Hawaii17:10 San Francisco dirt, Hyde Street Studios, and the Tenderloin contrast20:10 Perception vs reality in “black cities” and getting robbed in San Francisco33:10 D’Angelo passing and why tribute shows feel off46:10 The real way to honor artists is to make your own music57:40 Next episode tease with Nigel’s son and brothers

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    59 mins
  • The Shadow People Ep26 - Danny Deep Dive with the Assistant DA
    Nov 4 2025

    Nigel is somewhere over the Pacific. Danny slides from the dark corner into the hot lights. We talk Mississippi childhood, art schools, Tulane to UNO, Marsalis and Peterson lore, and the strange path from guitar ensemble to Guitarmy. There is a Hornets band saga, a Pelicans kid-night meltdown, and a food-court survival guide.We also wander into fruit heists, Red Rocks with Jack Black, why backup QBs have the best job in sports, and a quick plea to feed people when SNAP gets cut. Music, jokes, and a little civic sense.

    Timestamps00:00 Cold open and roll call01:10 Setting up the Danny deep dive02:06 Mississippi memories and first bands06:38 Tulane to UNO and the Funky Butt era08:35 Katrina semester and the mystery diploma29:08 Pelicans pain and the kid-night rant33:46 NBA house band stories and the jovial music request41:09 Red Rocks tale with Jack Black45:54 SNAP talk and feeding people59:09 Quote of the day and sign-off


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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • The Shadow People Ep25 - Juice's Journey, D'Angelo, & NOLA's New Mayor
    Oct 22 2025

    Episode 25 opens like a family room. Nigel’s voice drops in from the road, Lettuce dates on the horizon, and a heavy moment reflecting on losing heroes and what that does to musicians our age. Julian “Juice” joins as guest host, part New Orleans memory book, part announcement of a new chapter.

    Juice talks about leaving the comfort of a longrun band to build his name, why authenticity beats trends, and how the business only starts to make sense when you claim ownership. He traces a path from marching bands and brass culture to songwriting, rapping, and teaching. As musical director at the Trombone Shorty Foundation he’s drilling scales, stagecraft, and realworld habits that keep a band together when there’s no director counting you in. The conversation turns to the local scene: promoters who import “fantasy” lineups, clubs that prize bar sales over lineage, and the ongoing work of protecting New Orleans music so it still sounds like New Orleans.

    There’s joy in the details. Juice’s record Be Intentional gets love, along with tracks like “Colors,” “DKNY,” “Guestless,” and “Black Jobs,” plus the kid choir story that reminds everyone why we do this. Dates get stamped for the folks who want to pull up in person: Washington, DC on November 2 at Songbird and New Orleans on November 14 at Sweet Lorraine’s. Brown Hound Sounds holds the room together, sE Electronics mics do their part, and the signoff feels like it always does here—gratitude, a little mischief, and plans for next time.


    Timestamps

    • 00:06: Cold open and Episode 25 roll call

    • 00:40: D’Angelo remembrance and how loss hits musicians our age

    • 03:20: Guest host introduction for Julian “Juice” and what he’s building

    • 06:36: Standing your ground as an artist and tuning out the peanut gallery

    • 11:01: New Orleans roots, Michael Jackson influence, and crossing lanes

    • 28:53: Teaching at Trombone Shorty Foundation and real stage habits

    • 38:04: Local scene talk, club bookings, and protecting New Orleans authenticity

    • 41:38: Juice announces shows and plans, then album talk with favorite tracks

    • 50:40: “Black Jobs” story and flipping a negative into community fuel

    • 54:05: Sign-off, studio love, and what’s next

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    55 mins
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