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The Resilient Pastor

The Resilient Pastor

By: Barna Group
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Join pastors Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller as they invite leaders to think out loud together about the challenges and opportunities of leading a church in a rapidly changing world. In each episode, they will have a conversation about church leadership and the challenges pastors are facing. Then, they’ll share a conversation with a pastor, church leader, thinker or theologian about the health of the pastor, the state of the church and what it looks like to love well and lead faithfully.© 2025 The Resilient Pastor Christianity Spirituality
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  • 66 | The Relationships of Today’s Pastors with David Kinnaman
    Jan 1 2026

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    In this episode, Rich Villodas, Glenn Packiam, and Sharon Hodde Miller join Barna CEO David Kinnaman to unpack new research on pastoral relationships. The conversation explores the tension between strong marriages and relational loneliness, and why friendship, spiritual direction, and community are essential for long-term pastoral resilience.



    • Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26
    • Get your own copy of new Barna report, The Relationships of Today's Pastors.
    • Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.
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    45 mins
  • 65 | Bryan Loritts on the Future of Preaching
    Dec 11 2025

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    Sharon Hodde Miller sits down with Bryan Loritts to discuss the future of preaching and why knowing your congregation is essential for faithful communication. They talk about navigating justice topics with biblical grounding, speaking into cultural pressure with integrity, and maintaining credibility in a skeptical age. Bryan also weighs in on the opportunities and limits of AI in sermon preparation.

    • Text BARNA to 55123 to get your free Mission-Based Budgeting guide from BELAY, helping pastors and churches thrive for over 15 years with step-by-step tools to build a budget that fuels your ministry’s mission.
    • Learn more about the services that Brotherhood Mutual offers at BrotherhoodMutual.com.
    • Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.
    • View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.



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    58 mins
  • 64 | Discipling Your Church in Generosity
    Nov 27 2025

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    Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas, and Sharon Hodde Miller explore how pastors can disciple their churches toward worshipful, year-round generosity rooted in trust and vision. Framed by Barna research, they discuss how to cultivate healthy giving cultures, build trust with congregants, and wisely guide churches through year-end giving seasons and large capital campaigns.

    • Text BARNA to 55123 to get your free Mission-Based Budgeting guide from BELAY, helping pastors and churches thrive for over 15 years with step-by-step tools to build a budget that fuels your ministry’s mission.
    • Learn more about the services that Brotherhood Mutual offers at BrotherhoodMutual.com.
    • Explore Barna’s latest insights on fostering a culture of giving here: How Churches Can Foster a Culture of Generosity.
    • Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.
    • View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
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    33 mins
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