In this episode, Asher sits down with Mel Carr of Cloversy to talk about the realities of delegation, scaling, and smart business support.

📍 “You don’t have time to train. You think no one can do it better than you. And you’re buried in the weeds. That’s where we come in.”

Mel breaks down what every overwhelmed business owner needs to hear:

• How to identify what’s draining your energy

• Where to start when outsourcing

• Why hiring one person to do the job of three is a recipe for burnout

• And how strategic delegation can help you scale and stay sane

If you’ve ever caught yourself thinking no one else can handle it or you’re stuck doing all the things you don’t enjoy, this conversation will change the way you look at support.

On this special episode of the podcast, Asher Cohen, host of The Real Deal and one of Arizona’s top real estate advisors, joins Mike Grinberg, Co-Founder & CEO of Proofpoint Marketing, for a conversation that bridges two worlds: real estate and consulting.

Asher shares insights into how successful real estate agents cultivate strategic partnerships—and why consulting firms should pay attention.

They dive into:

-The art of building trust quickly in high-stakes environments -How understanding your clients’ personal “why” drives better partnerships -The role of empathy and listening in long-term business relationships -Creating genuine value instead of transactional connections -Why service-driven professionals win loyalty—even outside their own industry

Asher pulls back the curtain on tactics real estate pros use daily—like staying front-of-mind with value, reading between the lines of client conversations, and becoming a true advocate rather than just a vendor.

Whether you’re in consulting, marketing, or any service industry, this episode will challenge how you think about relationships and partnerships that actually move the needle.

Listen now and discover how a real estate mindset might just transform your business.

Join Asher Cohen as he sits down with Norman Blakey to discuss Trust Matters: Protecting Your Legacy.

Whether you’re planning for the future or safeguarding your assets, this episode is packed with insights you don’t want to miss.