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The Rate Debate

The Rate Debate

By: Darren Langer
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What do you get when you throw a 36-year-fixed-income veteran into the room with a 26-year-old fixed-income millennial? The Rate Debate.

Darren Langer and Jess Ren are seasoned fixed income specialists with a deep passion for bond markets and an opinion on just about everything. And while they may sit facing each other at work, they don’t always see eye-to-eye.

Tune-in each month to hear their take on the RBA’s interest rate decision and other macro matters influencing markets.

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Episodes
  • Ep 53: It's time for a change
    Dec 11 2024

    After years of sharp analysis and spirited debates, Co-Head of Fixed Income Darren Langer and Investment Manager Jessica Ren sign off for the very last time in the final episode of The Rate Debate. From resilient labour markets and rising public spending to Fixed Income opportunities, Darren and Jess explore the key drivers that shaped 2024 and what lies ahead for 2025. They discuss inflation, central bank policies, and geopolitical tensions, highlighting potential shifts in corporate credit and global growth.

    A heartfelt thank you to all our loyal listeners over the past five years—your support made this journey possible. Don't miss the end of an era.

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    18 mins
  • Ep 52: Uncertain RBA overshadowed by US election
    Nov 6 2024

    In Episode 52 of The Rate Debate, Co-Head of Fixed Income Darren Langer and Investment Manager Jessica Ren dive into the US election’s potential outcomes, exploring its implications for bond markets, foreign policy, spending, and economic stability. The duo break down the gap between trimmed and headline inflation, shifting gold and oil prices, and discuss the geopolitical risks they expect will rise in the next 12-18 months.

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    15 mins
  • Ep 51: The rest of the world is changing, so why aren't we?
    Sep 26 2024

    The big question remains: will Australia follow the Fed’s lead or stick to its current path?

    In Episode 51 of The Rate Debate, Co-Head of Fixed Income Darren Langer and Investment Manager Jessica Ren unpack the Fed’s recent decision, explore the chances of rate cuts before Australia’s next federal election, and debate the importance and reliability of employment data for the RBA. They also take a closer look at inflation pressures, from petrol prices and energy rebates to rising service costs.

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    11 mins
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