In this episode, Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia interviews Elena Verna, Head of Growth at Lovable—the fastest-growing AI startup to ever surpass $100M in ARR, hitting the milestone in just eight months. With a proven track record leading growth at Miro, Amplitude, Superhuman, and Dropbox, Elena brings unparalleled expertise in driving sustainable, product-led growth across both hyper-growth and turnaround environments.

Elena shares how building in the fast-moving “vibe coding” category requires a radical shift in how we define product-market fit, structure growth teams, and measure success. From product-led monetization loops to redefining brand as a product responsibility, Elena outlines a bold vision for what growth looks like in the age of AI-native products.

What you’ll learn:

• How Lovable ships at record speed, with daily product updates and a 3-tier launch model.
• How AI-native products redefine activation, retention, and monetization.
• Why product teams must now own brand experience—not just features
• How Elena designs feedback, education, and referral loops that turn users into growth engines.
• The evolving role of activation, retention, and monetization in AI-native PLG.

Key Takeaways 👇

• Velocity as a Moat: Why rapid shipping is a survival strategy in AI-first companies.
• Always-Evolving PMF: How Lovable redefines product-market fit weekly in a category shaped by fast-moving LLMs.
• Product-Led Brand: Why every product touchpoint must be “lovable”—and how that standard powers word-of-mouth loops.

Credits:
Host: Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia
Guest: Elena Verna

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In this episode, Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia interviews Dheerja Kaur, Chief Product Officer at Hims & Hers, the publicly traded health and wellness platform with a market cap of over $10 billion and more than 3 million active users across its Hims and Hers consumer brands.
At Hims & Hers, Dheerja is building the future of preventative care by combining diagnostics, clinical guidance, and personalized treatments—all delivered through a consumer-grade digital experience. From healthcare to fintech, Dheerja breaks down how PMs can master regulatory nuance without sacrificing speed or UX, why pairing product with clinical and compliance experts is a superpower, and how to turn constraints into differentiation through org design, platform thinking, and data.

What you’ll learn:
– Why product leadership in regulated industries requires a different kind of PM muscle.
– How Hims & Hers is expanding from transactional treatments to full-stack preventative care.
– The rationale behind maintaining two separate apps—and how that unlocks personalization at scale.
– How AI is powering internal tools, treatment plans, and personalized health journeys.
Key Takeaways :point_down:
– Building for Impact, Not Just Efficiency: Why Dheerja prefers mission-driven industries that improve lives over “fun” products.
– Product Meets Clinical: How Hims & Hers pairs PMs with in-house physicians to co-create treatment and diagnostic experiences.
– From Health Stack to Health Loop: Why continuous testing, personalized treatments, and AI-powered insights are the future of digital health.

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Host: Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia
Guest: Dheerja Kaur

In this episode, Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia interviews Jeetu Patel, Chief Product Officer at Cisco, as he explores the critical intersection of AI, cybersecurity, and collaboration. Jeetu shares how Cisco is designing next-generation security products to protect enterprise systems in an AI-driven world. He discusses the balancing act between speed and safety, and how the rapid pace of AI adoption is reshaping both cybersecurity and enterprise software.

Jeetu dives into the frameworks Cisco uses to innovate securely at scale and why trust, privacy, and responsible AI design are central to their approach.

What you’ll learn:
* How AI is transforming the cybersecurity landscape and the enterprise software industry.
* Frameworks for balancing innovation and security at scale.
* The role of trust, privacy, and responsible AI design in product development.

Key Takeaways 👇
* AI in Cybersecurity: How Cisco is leveraging AI to build next-gen security products that adapt to emerging threats.
* Building Secure Innovation: Practical approaches for ensuring scalable, secure innovation in a rapidly changing landscape.
* The Future of Responsible AI: Why Jeetu believes privacy and ethical AI practices are critical for maintaining trust in an AI-powered world.

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Credits:
Host: Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia
Guest: Jeetu Patel