In this episode, Shawnee is joined by author Sally Franson to talk about Hanging Up. Join them as they discuss Delia Ephron's 1995 novel of the same name, Nora and Delia's adaptation process, why Diane Keaton directed the film instead of Nora, Meg Ryan's final appearance in the Nora Ephron Cinematic Universe, how Meg Ryan came to narrate the audiobook for Sally's novel Big in Sweden, the stress-inducing number of phones in the film, and a Holiday Watch trifecta.

In this extra special episode, Shawnee chats with Nora Ephron scholar and author of Nora Ephron At The Movies, Ilana Kaplan. Join them as they discuss Ilana's history with Nora, the writing and interview process for her new book, the current state of the romantic comedy and why Nora's films remain the gold standard, the Nora Ephron Cinematic Universe, why Goodfellas wouldn't exist without Nora, the iconic Heartburn salad dressing, and Nora's impact on internet culture.

Nora Ephron At The Movies is out now from Abrams Books in hardback and ebook formats, and the audiobook is read by Matilda herself, Mara Wilson.

In part 2 of this episode, Shawnee and screenwriter Carley Smale continue their conversation on the daisy of movies, You've Got Mail. Join them as they discuss
the Cafe Lalo scene, caviar garnishes and Nora's egg salad, Delia Ephron, the Upper West Side locations, the real-life inspiration for Kathleen Kelly's enchanting children's bookshop, her dream of an apartment, the staple piece of Kathleen's wardrobe that Meg Ryan didn't love, the wonderfully 90s opening credits, Holiday Watch, the film's excellent soundtrack, and the iconic song that almost didn't make the cut.