Episode 26 of the #PADpod features the very funny andengaging Joanna McNurlen! Joanna parlayed her Drama and Business background at #WashU into an interesting and exciting career journey that took her from positions at Deloitte and Spotify to her current role managing a team of Technical Architects at Salesforce and teaching ChangeInnovation and Management at NYU. Rob and Joanna talk about how the PAD taught the importance of failure and using that experience to leverage her way into a successful career of collaborating and presenting to large groups of people. We talk about the PAD classes that most shaped and (her word) broke her in a way that led her to a better understanding of the value of emerging from a struggle and understanding her true talents applied to business. Do not miss this funny, thought-provoking, and inspiring episode featuring the one and only Joanna McNurlen!

Episode 25 of the #PADpod features our FIRST designer sincethe podcast began with the enormously talented costume designer Chloe Karmin. Since graduating from WashU and studying costume design in the PAD, Chloe has been working nearly non-stop in the television and film industries. She’s designed costumes for films like Friendship and You Hurt My Feelings and been an assistant for multiple projects like Problemista (for Julio Torres whom she also did Fantasmas for HBO), Spaceman, Montana Story, and Lost Girls. She’s costumed Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Steve Buscemi and Paul Rudd just to name a few. Rob and Chloe talk about the values and skills she learned in collecting and assimilating research while at WashU and how she has leveraged that in making connections and engendering trust with her directors and collaborators. We also talk working with Antonio Banderas on-set for the upcoming Summer 2026 film Tony based on Anthony Bourdain’s book Kitchen Confidential. Don’t miss this episodeabout a talented #WashU trained costume designer with an extremely bright future in the business!

Episode 24 of the PAD podcast illustrates yet another of the many career branches a #WashU alum might take in the artsfield. Recorded from the heart of Broadway in New York City, this episode features Mr. Michael Sinder who is an entertainment attorney practicing predominantly in live theatre for shows from Broadway to London’s West End. For over 30 years, Mr. Sinder has counseled and represented clients that range from producers to authors and from investors to creative team members. Name the show and he’slikely been involved on it in some capacity or another. Rob and Michael’s talk ranges from discussing the first Broadway show he saw all the way up to his recommendations for great current Broadway productions. Don’t miss this entertaining (law) episode!