In this episode, we walk through what it looks like to do a “drain audit.” What drains us emotionally? Physically? Spiritually? Relationally? We talk honestly about how tragedy, busyness, sickness, loud rooms, traffic, and even good ministry can leave us thin.

We also talk about rhythms—daily, weekly, and seasonal—that help us build a replenishment cycle. Not as indulgence. Not as an escape. But as obedience. Because running empty isn’t holy. And exhaustion isn’t a mystery—it’s a pattern.

If you’ve been chasing rest but still feel weary, we hope this conversation encourages you & helps you build your own rhythms of replenishment.

In This Episode

• [01:00] Lauren’s Ice Cream Jackpot & Cricked Neck
• [04:00] Rest vs. Replenishment – What’s the Difference?
• [06:00] The Drain Audit: What Empties Your Cup?
• [10:00] Emotional Drain: Tragedy, Busyness & Feeling “Thin”
• [16:00] Physical Drain: Sickness, Sleep & Human Limits
• [18:00] Spiritual Drain: When We Can’t Hear the Lord
• [21:30] Longing, Ecclesiastes & Living Life Backwards
• [23:30] Stop Treating Exhaustion Like a Mystery
• [25:00] Check Engine Lights
• [27:00] What Actually Replenishes Us
• [32:00] Building Daily, Weekly & Seasonal Rhythms
• [38:00] Replenishment Is Not Indulgence — It’s Obedience
• [41:00] Seasons Change the Strategy
• [45:00] Doing the Replenishment Audit Together

Resources and Mentions

• Living Life Backwards by David Gibson

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In this episode of Between Sundays, Lauren and I talk about something that’s foundational to life in Christ but often overlooked: friendship. God made us for connection. You and I were not designed to walk this life alone, and yet so many of us are doing just that. We unpack the epidemic of loneliness, how real transformation happens in community, how to pursue meaningful friendships, and how to discern who is safe to be vulnerable with. It’s not easy. It takes time. It takes risk. But it is also worth it. Our hope is that this conversation gives you vision and practical tools to form the kind of deep, gospel-centered friendships we all need.

In This Episode

• [00:00] Lauren’s Dad Joke
• [02:00] The "At the Table" Series and the Loneliness Epidemic
• [04:49] Transformation Happens in Community
• [06:00] What Real Friendship Looks Like (and Why It’s Hard to Find)
• [09:02] Risk, Vulnerability, and the Role of Wisdom
• [10:00] How to Spot a Fool (and Why You Shouldn’t Be Friends with One)
• [13:10] Wise vs. Simple vs. Foolish: Who Can You Trust?
• [15:00] Belonging Deficits and Misreading Social Cues
• [18:00] Hurt, Healing, and How We Grow in Relationships
• [21:00] You Are Becoming Like Your Closest Friends
• [23:00] Inside Lauren’s Closest Friendships: A 20-Year Story
• [31:00] Evaluating Your Current Friendships
• [34:00] Inviting Friends Into the Journey (Without Breaking Up With Them)

Resources and Mentions

• Proverbs 13:20, Proverbs 22:24–25 – On choosing friends wisely
• U.S. Surgeon General’s 2023 report on loneliness as an epidemic
• The Overcomers: The King's Table episode - On Male Friendships
• Becoming Like Jesus - Matt’s Forthcoming Book

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Hey friends—Matt Chandler here. If you’ve followed The Overcomers, you know I’ve spent years telling stories of God’s grace amidst unimaginable pain. But we’re starting a new chapter doing something Lauren and I have desired to do for awhile now. We are pulling up two chairs and inviting you into the kinds of conversations we’ve had over two decades of marriage—some tender, some funny, all rooted in grace and truth.

In this first episode, we walk through our first seven years of marriage. We talk about unmet expectations, brokenness, and the power of covenant love. We dig into how God met us—not with quick fixes, but with the slow, steady work of transformation. If you’re married, want to be, or walking with someone who is, our prayer is this gives you some practical steps for building a strong marriage and reminds you we are all in need of God’s work in our lives.

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