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The Long and The Short Of It

The Long and The Short Of It

By: Peter Shepherd & Jen Waldman
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A weekly podcast for curious people ready to explore the art and science of being human from every possible angle: macro, micro, Australian, American, tall, short and everything in between.2018 The Long and The Short Of It Art Economics Entertainment & Performing Arts Management Management & Leadership Personal Development Personal Success
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  • 378. Favo(u)rite Things: 2025
    Dec 23 2025

    In their annual tradition, Jen and Pete list their very favo(u)rite things of 2025.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about their favo(u)rite:

    • Fiction book.
    • Non-fiction book.
    • Podcast.
    • TLATSOI episode.
    • Thing they watched.
    • Motto.
    • Thing they discovered about themselves.

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

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    27 mins
  • 377. Relative Effort
    Dec 16 2025

    Coining a new term, Jen introduces Pete to the idea of, while working on a project, considering the relative effort of both the creator and the receiver.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What is relative effort? What is relative risk?
    • How might we ship things without the pressure of absolute perfection?
    • Why might we think about the worst case scenario or fear, in order to move a project along?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

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    19 mins
  • 376. Cadence
    Dec 9 2025

    In Pete's version of an episode about running, he noodles with Jen about the idea of cadence, and how to break our routines projects into smaller steps.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What does "cadence" mean, and how might we apply the idea to our everyday lives?
    • Why is it better to not rush to the finish line, either while running or working?
    • How might we return to the basics in our work and creative processes?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

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    18 mins
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