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The Julia La Roche Show

The Julia La Roche Show

By: Julia La Roche
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Julia La Roche brings her listeners in-depth conversations with some of the top CEOs, investors, founders, academics, and rising stars in business. Guests on "The Julia La Roche Show" have included Bill Ackman, Ray Dalio, Marc Benioff, Kyle Bass, Hugh Hendry, Nassim Taleb, Nouriel Roubini, David Friedberg, Anthony Scaramucci, Scott Galloway, Brent Johnson, Jim Rickards, Danielle DiMartino Booth, Carol Roth, Neil Howe, Jim Rogers, Jim Bianco, Josh Brown, and many more. Julia always makes the show about the guest, never the host. She speaks less and listens more. She always does her homework.Julia La Roche Economics Personal Finance
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  • #322 Peter Grandich: Most Concerned In 40 Year Career - Gold Heading To $5,000, $50 Trillion Debt Crisis & Why We're Becoming A Banana Republic
    Dec 24 2025

    Peter Grandich delivers his most bearish outlook in a 40+ year career, predicting 2026-2027 could be the most challenging years in 50 years due to mounting debt ($38T heading to $50T), political division worse than any time since the Civil War, and a deteriorating middle class hanging by its fingernails. He explains why this was his best five-year period after moving entirely into gold and precious metals in 2021, with price targets of $5,000 for gold and $100 for silver still ahead. He warns we're in the earliest stages of becoming a banana republic as BRICS launches a gold-backed trading unit and de-dollarization accelerates.


    This episode is brought to you by VanEck.

    Learn more about the VanEck Rare Earth and Strategic Metals ETF: http://vaneck.com/REMXJulia


    Links:

    https://x.com/PeterGrandich

    https://petergrandich.com/

    https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-FORMER-Wall-Street-Whiz/dp/B096LPRYW6


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro and welcome Peter Grandich

    01:17 Macro view - not a lot of positive things to say

    09:47 Best year in five years - gold and precious metals trade

    13:52 Oil prediction: $50 before $150

    15:12 Deteriorating middle class hanging by fingernails

    21:41 Most concerned he's ever been in 40+ year career

    23:01 Trump's trade war mistakes

    28:21 De-dollarization and dollars coming back to US

    30:18 Solutions: Return to moral compass and faith

    35:48 Wealth preservation vs appreciation for investors

    41:31 Passive investing

    45:12 The 12 factors of why party like 1929 will bite back

    47:58 Biblical wisdom on debt and finances

    49:19 Parting thoughts

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    54 mins
  • #321 Carol Roth: America's Broken Fiscal Foundation & The Inflation That's Coming
    Dec 22 2025

    Carol Roth, a “recovering” investment banker, financial television commentator, entrepreneur, and two-time New York Times best-selling author, joins Julia La Roche again for episode 321. Carol delivers a sobering assessment of America's broken fiscal foundation with debt-to-GDP over 120%, explaining why the K-shaped economy is creating a non-merit-based divide driven by policy and the administrative class wealth transfer. She discusses the wealth paradox - despite abundance, Americans are more stressed than ever due to housing, education, and healthcare costs - and predicts inflation will be the release valve for our debt crisis. Roth shares her bullish thesis on gold and precious metals as central banks shift away from US Treasuries, explains why the Fed's tools are now irrelevant in this fiscal dominance era, and reveals her predictions for 2026 including decoupling from European allies, Fed chaos, and wild out-of-the-box policies.


    This episode is brought to you by VanEck.

    Learn more about the VanEck Rare Earth and Strategic Metals ETF: http://vaneck.com/REMXJulia


    Links:

    You Will Own Nothing: https://www.carolroth.com/nothing/

    Follow Carol Roth on X: https://x.com/caroljsroth


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro and welcome Carol Roth

    00:57 Big picture macro view: Broken fiscal foundation

    04:07 K-shaped economy debate and wealth paradox

    11:46 Administrative class wealth transfer problem

    18:33 Is Trump going to fix the broken fiscal foundation?

    24:37 Do rate cuts help everyday Americans?

    30:51 Gold as hedge and insurance policy

    37:50 "You Will Own Nothing" - what's changed since 2023

    45:33 Predictions for 2026

    48:58 Wrap up and where to find Carol

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    51 mins
  • #320 Chris Whalen: How To Really Reform The Fed
    Dec 20 2025

    Chris Whalen, chairman of Whalen Global Advisors and author of The Institutional Risk Analyst blog, joins The Julia La Roche Show for "The Wrap with Chris Whalen."


    In this episode, Chris Whalen breaks down why Kevin Hassett may have blown his chances for Fed Chair by walking back Trump's views, discusses Kevin Warsh as the emerging frontrunner, and explains his reform proposal to return to a decentralized Fed with 15 district banks focused solely on sound money. He reveals why Trump's rhetoric about interest rates is backfiring (pushing the 10-year UP instead of down), predicts a home price correction in 2027-28, and explains why 3% inflation is now the new target. Whalen also discusses why gold and silver are still in early innings, how commercial real estate pain is being quietly resolved in the background, why good bank numbers mask concerning private credit risks, and answers a viewer question about BOJ rate hikes potentially triggering a broader correction.


    Links:

    The Institutional Risk Analyst: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/

    https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/post/theira785

    Inflated book (2nd edition): https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/inflated-r-christopher-whalen/1146303673

    Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/rcwhalen

    Website: https://www.rcwhalen.com/

    https://international-economy.com/TIE_Su25_Whalen.pdf


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Welcome Chris Whalen

    01:10 Kevin Hassett: Did he blow his chances for Fed Chair?

    03:38 Reforming the Fed: Decentralized model vs FDR's changes

    04:11 How decentralization would change Fed policy

    06:08 Fed must be independent of President, not Congress

    07:44 Post-1935 power concentration with Fed Chair

    08:11 How centralization distorted monetary policy

    09:17 Has the Fed been acting like its own hedge fund?

    10:30 Home price correction coming in 2027-28

    11:14 Subscribe reminder

    11:52 Trump's rate talk pushing yields UP not down

    12:56 Advice to Trump: Talk about growth and jobs, not rates

    14:09 Kevin Warsh as emerging frontrunner for Fed Chair

    15:17 Scrap the dual mandate, focus on sound currency

    16:41 CPI print this week: 3% is the new target

    17:23 Raising conforming limits encourages more inflation

    18:42 Gold, sound money, and what Treasury should do

    20:14 Is sound money viable?

    21:33 Roosevelt's New Deal legacy and today's problems

    22:53 Silver all-time high, gold north of $4,300 - still early innings

    24:22 Commercial real estate pain and which banks are exposed

    27:10 Private credit, NDFIs and why good bank numbers are concerning

    29:37 Inflation driving everything in New York and beyond

    30:22 Viewer question: BOJ rate hikes and impact on risk assets

    31:44 Wrap up, year-end predictions preview and where to find Chris

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    33 mins
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