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The Inclusive AF Podcast

The Inclusive AF Podcast

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 Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast, your go-to destination for all things DEI, HR, and workplace inclusivity. Hosted by two BFFs with a combined decades of experience in the people space, Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton, this podcast is where candid conversations meet insightful, actionable strategies. Together, they dive deep into the complex (and often messy) world of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, exploring how to build workplaces that are not just diverse, but truly inclusive. Katee is a dynamic Chief People Officer and DEI thought leader at WebPros, dedicated to shaping inclusive corporate cultures that empower underrepresented groups. With expertise in global HR strategy, leadership development, and talent management, Katee brings a wealth of knowledge—and a sense of humor—to every episode. Jackye, a seasoned HR tech and DEI professional, has spent over 15 years driving transformative change in the workplace. A connector at heart, she blends innovation, empathy, and data to craft inclusive work environments that thrive on diverse perspectives. Whether discussing the latest HR trends or sharing stories of workplace triumphs and struggles, Jackye’s unique approach adds a bold, refreshing take to the conversation. Together, Katee and Jackye have built a podcast that is as insightful as it is entertaining, with their signature banter and lighthearted humor making complex topics feel accessible and fun. Expect a mix of practical advice, personal stories, and monthly guest appearances from industry leaders and change-makers. Whether you're an HR professional, a DEI champion, or simply someone passionate about creating better workplaces, Inclusive AF is the podcast that’ll inspire, challenge, and make you laugh. Tune in weekly for a fresh take on creating workplaces where everyone can show up as their true, authentic selves.All rights reserved by WRKdefined Career Success Economics Management Management & Leadership Politics & Government
Episodes
  • From Burnout to Boundaries: Protecting Your Space in Challenging Times with Lindiwe Davis

    From Burnout to Boundaries: Protecting Your Space in Challenging Times with Lindiwe Davis
    Jul 17 2025
    Ready for some real talk on navigating job pivots, protecting your mental health, and finding your purpose—especially when it feels like the world is upside down? Join hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton for another empowering episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🎙️ This week, returning guest Lindiwe Davis (aka The Couch Coach) is back to dish on: - How to stay the course in your career—even when the path twists and turns - Setting boundaries to protect your energy (and why that’s 100% OK!) - Embracing discomfort vs. struggling and the secret to smart pivots - The power of community, courage, and giving yourself permission to just be - Dealing with imposter syndrome and why it means you’re already doing the thing Plus, get some laughs as the hosts talk dessert fixes, Love Island, and the fine line between foolishness, shenanigans, and insanity (ah, the workplace!). If you’re looking for inspiration, practical coaching advice, and authenticity from people who have been through it (and survived to tell the tale), this episode is for you. Don’t forget to subscribe, like, and drop your thoughts in the comments—we want to hear YOUR story, too! #InclusiveAF #Podcast #CareerGrowth #MentalHealthMatters #StayTheCourse #JobPivot #Coaching #Boundaries #ImposterSyndrome #WomenInPodcasting #DiversityAndInclusion #RealTalk #Community Tune in, get inspired, and remember: the price is the price—so make it count for you. 👏 If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    52 mins
  • HR’s Wake Up Call: Auditing AI Tools After the Workday Bias Case with Katee & Jackye - Episode 155

    HR’s Wake Up Call: Auditing AI Tools After the Workday Bias Case with Katee & Jackye - Episode 155
    Jul 11 2025
    🎙️ Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this must-listen episode, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn dive into one of the hottest and most pressing topics in HR: AI Bias in Recruiting—especially focusing on the landmark Mobley vs. Workday lawsuit. With over 1.1 BILLION applications potentially impacted, what does this mean for your organization and your hiring practices? We break down: - The real risks of bias in AI-powered ATS systems like Workday🧐 - What the Workday lawsuit means for companies (hint: it’s not just about tech, it’s about accountability!) - The practical steps every HR professional and recruiter needs to take NOW to audit and protect their hiring funnel - Why relying solely on AI isn’t enough and how YOU hold the responsibility - The right questions to ask your vendors to avoid being at the center of the next big discrimination case Plus, we keep it real, weaving in candid stories from our careers, a few laughs about 90s Sun-In hair disasters, and our hot takes on the future of compliance. Whether you're in HR, recruiting, or leadership, you can't afford to miss these insights on protecting your company, candidates, and reputation in the age of AI. 👉 Don’t forget to subscribe, like, and share! And keep your eyes peeled for our upcoming Inclusive AF swag store—announced soon! #AIInRecruiting #HRTech #WorkdayLawsuit #InclusiveAF #DiversityHiring #AIBias #HRCompliance #Recruiting #DEI #HumanResources #ATS #WorkplaceEquity #AIAccountability Listen NOW and get ahead of what's coming for HR and recruiting leaders everywhere! 💪 Got questions, comments, or want to share your own story? Drop a comment below—we LOVE hearing from our Inclusive AF family! ATS Vendor Evaluation Questions – Bias Detection & DEIB Alignment Bias Detection & Mitigation - How does your system detect or flag potential bias in candidate screening or selection? - Do you conduct regular audits (internal or third-party) to assess disparate impact in hiring outcomes? - Can you share the results of your most recent bias audit or fairness analysis? - How do you monitor for demographic drop-off or funnel imbalances (e.g., by race, gender, age, disability)? - Do you offer real-time alerts or bias flags during recruiter or hiring manager interactions? Transparency & Explainability - Can your algorithmic decisioning or scoring be explained to end users (e.g., recruiters, candidates)? - Do you provide visibility into how candidate matches, rankings, or scores are calculated? - How can recruiters override or contest algorithmic suggestions? Anonymity & Data Privacy - Does your platform offer blind screening (e.g., redacting names, photos, graduation dates)? - How do you protect candidate PII (personally identifiable information) throughout the hiring process? - Can recruiters be restricted from seeing demographic details to reduce unconscious bias? Analytics & Reporting - What diversity analytics or dashboards do you offer for tracking pipeline health and equity? - Can we track pass-through rates by demographic category across stages (e.g., applied → screened → hired)? - Do you offer any benchmarking to compare our data against industry or peer norms? Compliance & Regulation - How do you support compliance with local and global AI/HR laws (e.g., EEOC guidance, NYC Local Law 144, EU AI Act)? - Do you provide the required disclosures and opt-outs for jurisdictions with AI bias laws? - How do you stay current on regulatory changes impacting algorithmic hiring tools? Commitment to DEIB - How does your tool support our DEIB goals beyond just compliance (e.g., inclusive language checkers, diverse sourcing tools)? - Do you work with DEIB consultants, advisory boards, or audit partners to review your tech? - What ongoing improvements are planned to ensure fairness and accessibility in your platform?
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    37 mins
  • Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Rebecca Eldredge - Episode 154

    Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Rebecca Eldredge - Episode 154
    Jun 16 2025
    Ready to explore what real inclusion and well-being look like—especially for those doing the heavy lifting on the frontlines of change? On this episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton are joined by Dr. Rebecca Eldridge, a licensed psychologist with 20+ years of expertise in multicultural issues and organizational well-being. Together, they dig into the often-overlooked toll of fighting for equity (especially for Black and Brown women), intergenerational trauma, and why self-care isn’t just a buzzword—it’s essential for sustainable change. You’ll hear actionable advice for leaders navigating tough topics like global conflict at work, the importance of psychological safety, and why “finding your calm” matters (even if it feels uncomfortable or impossible). Plus, there’s real talk about burnout, what organizations get wrong about DEI, and how small changes can have big impact. If you care about inclusion, employee wellness, or the “real work” of creating change—this episode is both validating and a must-listen. 🔗 Listen, learn, and join the conversation! #InclusiveAF #DEI #WorkplaceWellbeing #WomenInLeadership #PsychologicalSafety #Burnout #SelfCare #SocialJustice #Leadership #Podcast #InclusionMatters #MentalHealthAtWork 👇 Drop your thoughts in the comments! How does your workplace support (or NOT support) well-being for DEI leaders and changemakers? If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    52 mins

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