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The I Don't Believe in Astrology Podcast

The I Don't Believe in Astrology Podcast

By: Debra Silverman
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 Debra interviews famous and not-so-famous characters who have a really good story to tell. Here you’ll find topics on everything from astrology to climate change. Get to know Debra and her cast of characters as they entertain you throughout the episodes and give you a glimpse into their lives, those they surround themselves with, and what they are passionate about.2022 Personal Development Personal Success Science Social Sciences
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  • How To Break Free from Drama Addiction and Find Authentic Peace with Dr. Scott Lyons

    How To Break Free from Drama Addiction and Find Authentic Peace with Dr. Scott Lyons
    May 13 2025
    Overview

    In this illuminating episode of the I Don't Believe in Astrology podcast, host Debra Silverman engages in a profound conversation with Dr. Scott Lyons, a double Cancer with a background spanning clinical psychology, dance therapy, osteopathy, and somatics.


    The discussion delves into the phenomenon of "drama addiction" and how we unconsciously use stress as a distraction mechanism to avoid underlying emotional pain. Through personal stories of his own recovery journey, Dr. Scott Lyons offers powerful insights into why many of us struggle to sustain peace in our lives.

    Debra and Dr. Scott Lyons explore how our modern society functions as a "stress economy" that competes for our attention through constant stimulation, further exacerbating our nervous system dysregulation.

    Dr. Scott Lyons also explains how stress provides immediate pain relief by blocking receptors and distracting us from deeper emotional wounds, creating a cycle of addiction.

    This fascinating conversation weaves together Astrology, neuroscience, and somatic understanding to explain why finding authentic calm feels so challenging— and what we can do to break free from the cycle of unnecessary turmoil.

    Find more information about Dr. Scott Lyons and his work with the Embody Lab: https://theembodylab.com

    Order your copy of Debra's new book, I Don't Believe In Astrology, here and get access to Debra's companion tarot booklet while you still can: I Don't Believe In Astrology

    Connect with Debra on social media and get access to her latest offerings, workshops, and more: solo.to/dsAstrology

    Key Highlights From The Episode

    • How to break free from drama addiction and find authentic peace

    • How stress addiction serves as a mechanism for distraction from deeper emotional pain and Dr. Lyons' personal journey of recovery from drama addiction, including the crucial role of facing boredom

    • The concept of the "stress economy" and how our society is built on capturing attention through activating the amygdala

    • Understanding the difference between tolerance for stress versus genuine capacity for processing emotions

    • How to reconnect with nature and physical presence as medicine for an overwhelmed nervous system

    Timestamps

    [00:01:30] Opening conversation between Debra Silverman and Dr. Scott Lyons

    [00:03:29] Introduction to the podcast and discussion about technology changes over time

    [00:05:28] Dr. Scott Lyons introduces himself and shares his favorite ice cream flavor (mint chip)

    [00:06:46] Discussion of Dr. Lyons' background in psychology, dance therapy, and osteopathy

    [00:07:27] Debra notes Scott's double Cancer Astrological makeup and its connection to embodiment

    [00:08:48] Dr. Lyons explains how stress blocks pain receptors and distracts from emotional pain

    [00:12:08] Discussion of the hierarchy in our body of what gets attended to first (emotional vs. physical)

    [00:15:11] Explanation of "revving" - how we source internal and external stimuli to avoid settling

    [00:17:59] Dr. Lyons describes how we interrupt our own peace and avoid proximity to ourselves

    [00:21:42] Discussion of the addiction to stress because we don't know how to sustain peace

    [00:24:52] Dr. Lyons shares his personal journey of recovery, including accepting boredom

    [00:26:33] Description of sitting through the discomfort to access deeper emotions

    [00:29:56] Dr. Lyons explains his cardiac collapse from stress overload ("overdosing" on stress)

    [00:31:29] Discussion of how addiction to drama makes dysfunction feel "normal"

    [00:34:02] Dr. Lyons describes recognizing his craving for stress and creating space between craving and action

    [00:39:02] Explanation of how drama is "the freest, most accessible drug there is"

    [00:42:42] Discussion of internal dialogue and its role in stress addiction

    [00:45:28] Dr. Lyons shares how he began accepting boredom despite it being "fucking awful"

    [00:48:23] Explanation of mindfulness as preparation for "surfing the waves of life" not escaping them

    [00:57:21] Discussion of how meditation and yoga can sometimes be "a beautiful place to hide"

    [01:07:59] Closing thoughts on taking social media pauses and attuning to your capacity

    [01:11:37] Debra's final thoughts on connecting with nature as the ultimate medicine for the nervous system
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    49 mins
  • How To Navigate Astrological Changes and Discover Its Impact with Rick Levine

    How To Navigate Astrological Changes and Discover Its Impact with Rick Levine
    Apr 15 2025
    In this illuminating episode of "I Don't Believe in Astrology," host Debra Silverman engages in a profound conversation with renowned Astrologer Rick Levine. The discussion delves into the relationship between science, religion, and Astrology, with Rick offering a fascinating quantum physics perspective on fate versus free will. Rick also elaborates on how disillusionment can be positive—the necessary meeting of dreams with three-dimensional reality— and explores the challenges of rapid technological advancement, climate change, and societal upheaval as symptoms of evolutionary growing pains. Throughout the conversation, Rick maintains his position as a "possibleist" rather than an optimist or pessimist. The episode concludes with Rick's powerful mantra: "Think cosmically, act locally." He emphasizes the importance of maintaining connection to our physical bodies while expanding our consciousness, choosing battles wisely, and finding the balance between flexibility and firmness. Rick and Debra reflect on the historical exclusion of women from Astrological practice and celebrate the current renaissance of interest in Astrology as a tool for understanding ourselves and navigating these transformative times. This conversation also provides listeners with practical wisdom for approaching the significant planetary transitions of 2025 with awareness, compassion, and engaged action. Don’t miss this meeting of two Astrological powerhouses! Find more information about Rick Levine here: https://bit.ly/ricklevine Order your copy of Debra’s new book, I Don’t Believe In Astrology, here and get future access to Debra’s companion tarot booklet when it is released: I Don't Believe In Astrology Connect with Debra on social media and get access to her latest offerings, workshops, and more: solo.to/dsAstrology Key Highlights From The Episode How to navigate Astrological changes and discover its impact in our future and throughout our history The Saturn-Neptune conjunction and what it representsRick's quantum physics explanation reveals how both destiny and choice coexist but can't be fully perceived simultaneously Navigating the transition from the Piscean Age to the Aquarian Age How to "think cosmically, act locally"— expanding our consciousness while taking practical action Timestamps [00:01:07] Opening conversation between Debra Silverman and Rick Levine about his Aries-heavy chart [00:01:50] Introduction to the "I Don't Believe in Astrology" podcast with host Debra Silverman [00:02:04] Rick shares when he first started studying Astrology (1967-68) and charging for charts (1976) [00:02:29] Rick explains why he says "I don't believe in Astrology" - he doesn't believe in the Astrology that others don't believe in [00:02:49] Discussion of how Astrology has "bad PR" in modern society [00:02:57] Rick explains why both organized religion and science agree on rejecting Astrology [00:03:43] Discussion about religion's historical relationship with Astrology - they don't say it doesn't work, just "don't do it" [00:04:33] Rick points out that Jesus invited three Magi (Astrologers) to his birth [00:05:00] Historical context of the Catholic Church and Astrology, including Thomas Aquinas's practice [00:05:30] Story about Rob Hand getting his PhD in ancient history from Catholic University [00:05:47] Rob Hand's doctoral thesis on the Church's use of Astrology in medieval warfare [00:06:35] Why modern science rejects Astrology - science requires repeatability while Astrology sees every moment as unique [00:07:14] Discussion of KAiros vs. Chronos (qualitative vs. quantitative time) [00:08:51] Albert Einstein's quote: "Time is an illusion, albeit a very persistent one" [00:09:12] Rick explains how time is created by movement around a center [00:10:47] Discussion of Saturn and Neptune and their relationship in Astrology [00:12:11] Rick describes Jupiter as cosmic magnification and expansion [00:13:44] The relationship between Neptune and Jupiter explained - "Neptune is Jupiter in drag" [00:15:16] Rob Hand's quote about Saturn being illusion and Neptune being reality [00:15:35] Discussion of the upcoming Saturn-Neptune conjunction in June 2025 [00:16:12] Rick explains the rarity of Saturn-Neptune conjunction at 0 degrees Aries [00:17:54] The metaphysical meaning of Saturn crystallizing Neptune's reality [00:18:46] Explanation of disillusionment as a positive process of reality meeting dreams [00:21:24] Discussion of quantum physics showing "what you see is not what you get" [00:22:52] All outer planets moving into Fire and Air signs in 2025 (Pluto into Aquarius, Neptune into Aries, Saturn into Aries, Uranus into Gemini) [00:23:28] Rick discusses societal fear about rapid technological and climate change [00:26:24] Rick identifies himself as a "possibleist" rather than optimist or pessimist [00:26:46] Discussion of psychological regression under fear and societal parallels [00:29:07] The importance ...
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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • How To Quiet Your Internal Noise with Tatiana Dorow

    How To Quiet Your Internal Noise with Tatiana Dorow
    Mar 18 2025
    Overview How to quiet your internal noise with the power of silence. Step into the mystical world of intuition and crystal energy as Debra welcomes special guest Tatiana Dorow to the I Don't Believe In Astrology Podcast. With her fiery Leo Sun and double Sagittarius placements, Tatiana shares her remarkable journey of following her intuition to purchase the right home, sight unseen, and assemble a collection of over one thousand crystals—most acquired through pure intuitive guidance rather than physical inspection. Delve into Tatiana's unique relationship with silence as she reveals how sensory deprivation has enhanced her intuitive abilities and decision-making. With her intense triple Fire energy, Debra interprets Tatiana’s Astrological chart and shares how she embodies The High Priestess archetype, offering profound wisdom through her embrace of silence as a doorway to deeper understanding. This episode culminates in an exploration of getting comfortable with our internal noise and embracing the power of silence— leaving listeners with practical wisdom to incorporate into their own spiritual journeys. Find out more about Tatiana’s collection and buy your own tabletop book here: https://bit.ly/tatianadorow Preorder your copy of Debra’s new book, I Don’t Believe In Astrology, here to get future access to Debra’s companion tarot booklet when it is released: I Don't Believe In Astrology Connect with Debra on social media and get access to her latest offerings, workshops, and more: solo.to/dsastrology Key Highlights From The Episode How to quiet your internal noise and build a powerful relationship with silence and intuition How sensory deprivation can enhance your intuition Debra’s interpretation of triple Fire energy and The High Priestess tarot card and its connection Tatiana’s life A whole new perspective on the healing resonance of crystals, well beyond the transactional relationships we have with them Tatiana’s reframe on meditation and a new way to look at your own meditation practice and goals Timestamps [0:48] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast with special guest, Tatiana Dorow [1:11] Showing Tatiana’s Astrological chart (Leo Sun, Sagittarius Moon, Sagittarius Rising) and Debra sharing what stands out the most about Tatiana’s chart (Moon conjunct Neptune) [2:32] Tatiana shares about living with her three children in California, then the COVID pandemic happening in 2020 gave a realization and opportunity to choose where she and her family would be [4:04] Tatiana begins searching for home, and finds one in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, yet her intuition had something to say about this move [5:46] Tatiana gets another intuition about a home in Hawaii, purchasing it sight unseen [6:15] The beginning of Tatiana’s crystal collection and the connection to her childhood [7:52] How Tatiana’s crystal temple came to be, with her over one thousand crystal collection, with her first six crystals being the only ones she held before purchasing the others using her intuition [10:43] Building the museum-like sacred space for the crystals [11:28] How Tatiana uses her intuition and discernment for bringing people into her space, and how silence and sensory deprivation have helped her enhance that intuition [13:08] Debra reflects on Tatiana’s ability to sit in silence without triggering anxiety [13:39] Tatiana shares her take on meditation and the reframe that resonates most with her [14:03] Debra shares her interpretation of the first few tarot cards, which she has been studying and compiling a guide booklet on, connecting to Tatiana’s journey [14:52] Turning off Tatiana’s internal dialogue, and her take on silence [16:21] The difference between floating for a few hours in a deprivation tank versus floating overnight [16:45] Debra asks Tatiana to further explain the extreme nature of her Fire energy; Tatiana shares “the side effects” of being blunt and intense [18:05] Tatiana shares about the last time she cried [18:54] What Tatiana wishes people would do [19:15] Debra explains the High Priestess archetype, connected to Tatiana’s message and wisdom, despite her triple Fire energy [19:49] Debra shares her awe of the quality of Tatiana’s meditation in the crystal temple, and the effects the temple has from Tatiana’s perspective [22:45] How Debra came to find Tatiana’s crystal temple and how the crystals have affected her [24:41] The massive gift Tatiana witnesses when people come to her crystal palace [26:08] Anyone alive or not alive that Tatiana would love to have a conversation with; Tatiana answers in a different way [27:00] The entrance of silence and invitation to evolve [28:49] The power of exposure to silence and getting comfortable with our internal noise [29:44] The essence of Tatiana’s Fire and Earth energy [30:14] Tatiana’s resonance with clarity [30:35] Closing out today’s podcast conversation with how to see Tatiana’s...
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    33 mins

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Deep insights & hope for the future!

Thank you for sharing your wisdom and kind heart, absolutely loved your clarity on the dejablu podcast and can’t wait to drink up every single one of your interviews. Am listening to your missing element book on audible currently too :)

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