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The Green Dream

The Green Dream

By: James Baird
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The Green Dream is a podcast about ethical investing for positive impact and a better future! Host James Baird interviews fund managers, advisers and a range of leaders in sustainability about topical ESG issues. James is a Financial Planner with over 20 years in the industry, and is a Director of JustInvest Financial Planning. See www.justinvest.net.au. Authorised Representative of Ethical Investment Advisers AFSL 276544 www.ethicalinvestment.com.au© 2025 The Green Dream Economics Personal Finance
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  • Western Annihilation – Alcoa & the Northern Jarrah Forest
    Aug 29 2025

    Today’s discussion is about Alcoa’s proposed expansion of bauxite mining in WA’s jarrah forests, which has raised major concerns in the community. The expansion would lock in decades of additional carbon emissions through land clearing, transport, and alumina refining – flying in the face of both climate targets and public expectations for lowering emissions. Also, independent studies have revealed multiple high-risk pathways for contamination of Perth’s drinking water, emissions and water, the project threatens critical habitats for endangered Baudin's black-cockatoos, numbats, and a range of other native species...and it will decimate one of the world’s oldest Biodiversity Hotspots.

    I interviewed Peter Milne, the founder and editor of Boiling Cold, an independent news platform covering energy, climate, and industry in Western Australia. With a background in engineering and two decades in the oil and gas sector, Peter brings a huge amount of lived experience into his investigative reporting, earning multiple media awards for exposing stories that affect both the environment and the community. See: boilingcold and alcoa-investigation.

    For ethical investors, this is a classic case study. On paper, companies like Alcoa can sometimes score strongly on ESG metrics, yet in this case researcher Ethos-ESG currently gives them an ‘F’ Report card - the lowest rating. It highlights the range of negative impacts involved in their operations, including devastating impacts on biodiversity, community health and climate resilience. Investors who want their capital to align with sustainability principles would be worried about the risks to ecosystems and our society…but in addition, after hearing from Peter about the financial risks involved, any investor would be concerned.

    We would encourage all investors to ask their super fund or investment manager whether they invest in Alcoa. Our website lists ‘Investor Questions to Ask Alcoa’ because we don’t just want to raise awareness – we want to equip you to take action. These questions are designed to help investors hold companies like Alcoa accountable, cut through the PR, and get real answers. Whether you’re a default ‘Balanced fund’ investor or are concerned about the impacts of mining on WA’s forests, these questions highlight the issues that matter and show how your financial decisions can drive change.

    Bauxite mining firms like Alcoa and South32 have already stripped away tens of thousands of hectares of jarrah forest over the past six decades; this new expansion threatens even more—carbon stores, air quality, world-class trails, biodiversity and habitat for threatened wildlife all hang in the balance

    Alcoa’s vision is to “build a legacy of excellence for future generations.” Yet the reality of this expansion paints the opposite picture: a legacy of cleared forests, polluted water, displaced wildlife, and worsening climate impacts. As the research makes clear, these jarrah forests are irreplaceable. To leave behind stripped landscapes, dwindling biodiversity, and unsafe drinking water is not a gift to future generations—it is a burden they will have to carry long after the profits have been extracted.

    We wish to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land we recorded on, the Wardandi Noongar people. We pay our respects to them and their culture; and to elders past, present and emerging.

    For more information about JustInvest & EIA: justinvest and ethicalinvestment

    PS Thanks to Sabrina Hahn for the term 'Western Annihilation'!

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    33 mins
  • Hidden in Plain Sight: The Unseen Cost of Modern Slavery with Måns Carlsson & Moe Turaga
    Jul 9 2025

    I was blown away to hear Moe Turaga's story at a recent conference. Most of the time we think of Modern Slavery as a distant problem – something that happens in other countries. So how do we react when we find out that it's happening right here in Australia, often in plain sight. Moe Turaga bravely shared his first-hand experience of being exploited under slavery conditions. What are we missing here? Which products on the shelves of supermarkets and retail stores have been put there by exploiting workers?

    In this interview, we’re joined by Måns Carlsson, Head of ESG at Ausbil Investment Management, to understand the role of companies, consumers and investors in confronting this crisis facing an estimated 50 million people worldwide. Måns is a recognised leader in Modern Slavery and worker exploitation, with a long standing commitment to addressing human rights risks across portfolios. So much so that he was awarded the Order of Australia Medal in 2022 for his contribution to the sustainable investment industry.

    Måns takes us inside his work — from visiting factories and engaging directly with companies, to pushing for stronger transparency, and harnessing innovations in technology.

    This is a confronting but crucial conversation about responsibility, accountability, and the power investors have to protect human dignity, both in Australia and around the world. We hope you find value in this important discussion with Måns Carlsson of Ausbil…and special thanks to Moe Turaga for sharing his story.

    Link to the latest Toolkit on Human Rights (download for free)

    Link to the Baptist World Aid Fashion Guide (download for free)

    You can check out Ausbil at www.ausbil.com.au and disclaimer HERE.

    For more information about James Baird, JustInvest Financial Planning and Ethical Investment Advisers see: justinvest and ethicalinvestment

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    54 mins
  • A Darker Shade of Green: Sustainable Bonds with David Gallagher of Artesian
    Jun 25 2025

    Not all ethical investments are created equal. In this episode, we go deep into the world of green and sustainable bonds with David Gallagher, Head of Australian Fixed Income at Artesian. Prior to joining Artesian, David spent 9 years in the United Kingdom working for Deutsche Bank and RBS. David has a Master of Applied Finance from Kaplan and won the Dux Award in the process.

    David shares how fixed income can fund real-world solutions — from affordable housing to climate resilience — while delivering competitive returns. We explore various impact bonds, how Artesian are working on growing the green (and blue) bond market, and why this asset class is gaining serious momentum.

    We hope you enjoy this discussion with David Gallagher of Artesian.

    We wish to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land we recorded on, the Wardandi Noongar people. We pay our respects to them and their culture; and to elders past, present and emerging.

    You can check out Artesian and the Green and Sustainable Bond fund at artesianinvest.com. For more information about James Baird, JustInvest Financial Planning and Ethical Investment Advisers see: justinvest and ethicalinvestment

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    32 mins
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In the spirit of reconciliation, Audible acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respect to their elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples today.