In this conversation, Jim and Jared delve into Deleuze's essay 'Postscript on the Societies of Control,' exploring the transition from disciplinary societies to control societies. They discuss how modernity has shifted from a focus on confinement and discipline to a more diffuse form of control characterized by modulation and debt. The conversation highlights the implications of technology, social media, and the illusion of individualism in shaping contemporary experiences of control and achievement.

In this episode, Jim and Jared discuss the complexities of the UFO phenomenon with special guest Kelly Chase, focusing on Jacques Vallee's influential work 'Messengers of Deception.' They explore themes of manipulation, the unconscious, and the power of images in shaping belief systems. The conversation delves into the psychological impact of UFO experiences, the dangers of ontological shock, and the need for critical thinking in the field of ufology. Throughout, they emphasize the importance of self-awareness and the challenges of integrating extraordinary experiences into one's worldview.

In this conversation, Jared and Jim explore the themes of Freud's essay 'The Uncanny,' discussing its implications in literature, art, and psychology. They delve into the nature of dreams, the role of the uncanny in horror literature, and how repressed desires manifest in our experiences. The discussion also touches on the significance of coincidences and the cultural reflections of the uncanny in modern narratives.