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The Freakonomics Radio Book Club

The Freakonomics Radio Book Club

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From the podcast that explores the hidden side of everything, hear authors like you’ve never heard them before. Stephen Dubner and a stable of Freakonomics friends talk with the writers of mind-bending books, and we hear the best excerpts as well. You’ll learn about skill versus chance, the American discomfort with death, the secret life of dogs, and much more. To get every show in the Freakonomics Radio Network without ads and a monthly bonus episode of Freakonomics Radio, start a free trial for SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.2024 All Rights Reserved Social Sciences
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  • 28. China Is Run by Engineers. America Is Run by Lawyers.
    Sep 29 2025

    In his new book “Breakneck,” Dan Wang argues that the U.S. has a lot to learn from China. He also says that “no two peoples are more alike.” We have questions.

    • SOURCES:
      • Dan Wang, research fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, author of Breakneck: China's Quest to Engineer the Future.

    • RESOURCES:
      • Breakneck: China's Quest to Engineer the Future, by Dan Wang (2025).
      • The Anaconda in the Chandelier: Writings on China, by Perry Link (2025).
      • "Is the U.S. Ready for the Next War?" by Dexter Filkins (The New Yorker, 2025).
      • "How smartphones made Shenzhen China’s innovation capital," by Dan Wang (2016).
      • How China Escaped the Poverty Trap, by Yuen Yuen Ang (2016).
      • The Art of Not Being Governed, by Jame Scott (2009).

    • EXTRAS:
      • "The Engineering State and the Lawyerly Society: Dan Wang on his new book 'Breakneck,'" by the Sinica Podcast (2025).
      • "Is the U.S. Really Less Corrupt Than China?" by Freakonomics Radio (2021).

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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • 27. The Most Powerful People You’ve Never Heard Of
    May 23 2025

    Just beneath the surface of the global economy, there is a hidden layer of dealmakers for whom war, chaos, and sanctions can be a great business opportunity. Javier Blas and Jack Farchy, the authors of The World for Sale, help us shine a light on the shadowy realm of commodity traders.

    • SOURCES:
      • Javier Blas, opinion columnist at Bloomberg News.
      • Jack Farchy, energy and commodities senior reporter at Bloomberg News.

    • RESOURCES:
      • The World For Sale: Money, Power, and the Traders Who Barter the Earth's Resources, by Javier Blas and Jack Farchy (2021)
      • The King of Oil: The Secret Lives of Marc Rich, by Daniel Ammann (2010).

    • EXTRAS:
      • "How the Supermarket Helped America Win the Cold War (Update)" by Freakonomics Radio (2024).
      • "The First Great American Industry," by Freakonomics Radio (2023).
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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • 26. Is Professional Licensing a Racket?
    Feb 7 2025

    Licensing began with medicine and law; now it extends to 20 percent of the U.S. workforce, including hair stylists and auctioneers. In a new book, the legal scholar Rebecca Allensworth calls licensing boards “a thicket of self-dealing and ineptitude” and says they keep bad workers in their jobs and good ones out — while failing to protect the public.

    • SOURCES:
      • Rebecca Allensworth, professor of law at Vanderbilt University.

    • RESOURCES:
      • "The Licensing Racket: How We Decide Who Is Allowed to Work, and Why It Goes Wrong" by Rebecca Allensworth (2025).
      • "Licensed to Pill," by Rebecca Allensworth (The New York Review of Books, 2020).
      • "Licensing Occupations: Ensuring Quality or Restricting Competition?" by Morris Kleiner (W.E. Upjohn Institute for Employment Research, 2006).
      • "How Much of Barrier to Entry is Occupational Licensing?" by Peter Blair and Bobby Chung (British Journal of Industrial Relations, 2019).

    • EXTRAS:
      • "Is Ozempic as Magical as It Sounds?" by Freakonomics Radio (2024).
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    55 mins
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