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The Fire Break | Innovations in Wildfire

The Fire Break | Innovations in Wildfire

By: Steve Wolf | Wildfire Scientist
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Explore the wildfire crisis with Steve Wolf, on The Fire Break. Steve brings you the most influential voices in fire science, innovation, politics, and community engagement, sharing the latest strategies for wildfire prevention, mitigation, and recovery. Expect engaging and humorous chats with experts working to steer us through this climate dilemma. New episodes every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.Steve Wolf | Wildfire Scientist
Episodes
  • Gabbie Lochbaum | The "Canary in the Coal Mine" of the Wildfire Crisis
    Feb 4 2026

    Conservationist and birder Gabbie Lochbaum explains why birds are the ultimate indicator of ecosystem health—and why our current wildfire patterns are pushing them to the brink. From the specialized respiratory systems that make birds 43% more susceptible to smoke than humans, to the "whack-a-mole" history of toxic fire retardants, Gabbie breaks down the complex relationship between avian survival and modern fire suppression.

    In this episode, you'll learn about:

    • The Avian Advantage (and Weakness): How a bird's highly efficient, rigid respiratory system makes it uniquely vulnerable to wildfire smoke.

    • The Power of the Mosaic: Why birds like the Black-backed Woodpecker rely on fire edges, and why massive "mega-fires" are destroying these habitats.

    • Keystone Species: A deep dive into the Red-cockaded Woodpecker and how 35 other species rely on its "forest engineering."

    • Bioaccumulation & Reproduction: How traditional retardants (PBDEs and PFOS) lead to thin eggshells and developmental issues, echoing the DDT crisis.

    • Citizen Science: How everyday birders are using apps like eBird to provide researchers with global climate data.

    • Simple Conservation: Why keeping cats indoors is one of the single most effective ways to protect local bird populations.

    • The Future of Retardants: Exploring the shift toward biodegradable, ground-applied mists to protect waterways and wildlife.

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    51 mins
  • Travis Abbey | Why Rural Communities Must Build Their Own Fire Brigades
    Jan 28 2026

    Emergency services veteran Travis Abbey joins the show to discuss his mission of building wildfire resilience from the ground up in rural and Indigenous communities. With over 35 years of experience in initial attack and incident management, Travis explains why the "Magnificent Seven" model of community-led defense is becoming a necessity as government resources are increasingly overwhelmed. He also opens up about the evolving fire landscape, the transition from seasonal to year-round fire careers, and the personal mental health challenges of a lifetime spent on the front lines.

    In this episode, you'll learn about:

    • The Rural Gap: Why communities far from regional centers are often "triaged" out of government resources during major lightning storms.

    • Direct Fire Smart: Moving beyond education to physically changing home exteriors and removing vegetation in high-risk Indigenous communities.

    • Initial Attack Sovereignty: The process of building a "Type 5" fire crew within an Indigenous-owned natural resource corporation.

    • The 30-Year Fire Evolution: How the fire season has shifted from remote landscape fires to constant interface threats and year-round risk.

    • Mental Health & "Re-entry": Travis's personal story of his 2019 breakdown and the need for better mental health support as first responders transition back to civilian life.

    • The Stay or Go Debate: The complex reality of homeowners staying to defend uninsured properties and how governments are starting to partner with these "local responders."

    • Structure Protection Trailers: How a single trailer can provide the pumps, hoses, and sprinklers needed to protect 30 homes.

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    55 mins
  • Leo Zlimen | Why Evacuation Plans Fail, and How AI Can Help
    Jan 21 2026

    Ladris founder and CEO Leo Zlimen explains how his company is using hyper-advanced simulation software to solve the most complex variable in any disaster: human movement. By modeling billions of scenarios in real-time, Ladris gives emergency managers and citizens the one resource they need most—time. Leo discusses the move toward "zero-click" simulations, the psychology of leaving early, and why transparency is the key to passing critical public safety tax measures.

    In this episode, you'll learn about:

    • The Mission of Ladris: Striving for a future where zero lives are lost during natural disasters through better pre-planning.

    • Time as a Resource: Understanding the "maximum distance" problem—how far can you actually get in 30 minutes during a crisis?

    • The Power of Simulation: How running billions of "what-if" scenarios helps first responders make tactical decisions before the first spark.

    • The "Zero-Click" Future: Moving from static emergency plans to real-time models that detect fire and immediately provide the plan with the highest probability of success.

    • B2G Realities: The nuances of working with government agencies and building the "translation layer" between tech and the fire service.

    • Transparency for the Public: Using visual models to show residents exactly how a fire would impact their specific neighborhood to encourage earlier evacuations.

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    29 mins
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