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The Fifth Court

The Fifth Court

By: Peter Leonard BL Mark Tottenham BL
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Ireland's legal podcast, presented by the Law Society Award Winning team of Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL

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  • E144 The Fifth Court - Mr Justice Brian Cregan, Judge of the High Court | Parnell, leadership, and the law
    Mar 24 2026

    Episode 144 – Mr Justice Brian Cregan, Judge of the High Court | Parnell, leadership, and the law


    In this very special episode of The Fifth Court, hosts Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL are joined by Mr Justice Brian Cregan, Judge of the High Court, to discuss his book Parnell: A Novel and the legal, political, and historical legacy of Charles Stewart Parnell.


    Drawing on extensive original research, Mr Justice Cregan explores Parnell’s emergence as a political leader, his use of parliamentary obstruction, and the legal dramas that shaped his career — including the Special Commission and the O’Shea divorce proceedings.

    The discussion also addresses a striking historical assessment: whether Parnell’s political impact surpassed that of Daniel O’Connell, and what this means for how Irish history is understood.

    The episode includes detailed analysis of landmark legal moments, including the cross-examination of Richard Pigott — widely regarded as one of the most significant in legal history.


    Decisis Case Notes

    With thanks to Charlton Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners, sponsors of the Decisis law reports segment.

    This week’s cases include:

    • Pizzarchi v Kepak Cork Unlimited Company – renewal of a lapsed personal injury summons refused due to deliberate inaction
    • DPP v Murray – Court of Appeal upholds cumulative sentence for harassment of legal professionals and victim
    • Eastwood v Richards – presumption of revocation does not arise where will remained in solicitor’s custody
    Key Timestamps
    • 00:05:54 – Introduction to Mr Justice Brian Cregan
    • 00:23:05 – Parliamentary obstruction and the mechanics of power
    • 00:31:42 – The Pigott cross-examination and the Special Commission
    • 00:37:20 – The O’Shea divorce proceedings and political consequences
    • 00:42:56 – Parnell and O’Connell compared

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    48 mins
  • E143 The Fifth Court - Máirín de Búrca, once more in front of the courts
    Mar 18 2026

    Máirín De Búrca is in front of the courts again | The Fifth Court


    There are some names that belong in the footnotes of Irish history. Máirín De Búrca belongs in the headlines.


    In this very special episode of The Fifth Court, Peter Leonard and Mark Tottenham visit Máirín at home to talk about a life that took her from Chicago and Newbridge to housing protests, anti-apartheid activism, women’s liberation, prison, and one of the most important constitutional cases of the 1970s.


    Yes, Máirín De Búrca is in front of the courts again.

    This time she faces The Fifth Court where she tells the story behind the famous De Búrca and Anderson case, the challenge that exposed the absurdity of all-male, property-owning juries and helped change Irish law for good.


    This is a warm, funny, vivid and deeply important conversation about activism, law, protest, courage and a very different Ireland.

    Also in this episode, in the Decisis case round-up, Mark and Peter discuss three striking recent decisions:

    Kelly v An Bord Pleanála, where approval for a bus stop outside a home was quashed over privacy and safety concerns;

    Q v O, an interim access case involving a non-parent in a same-sex family despite the absence of a professional report on the child’s wishes;

    and In Re Tusker Property Holdings, where reckless and fraudulent trading led to personal liability, disqualification and costs orders.

    The Decisis section is proudly sponsored by Charlton Solicitors and Collaborative Practitioners of George’s Street, Dún Laoghaire, specialists in family law, civil litigation, property, wills and probate.


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    54 mins
  • E142 The Fifth Court - Garry O'Gorman, The Barrister Who Quit Law To Handicap Racehorses
    Mar 12 2026

    The Barrister Who Quit Law To Handicap Racehorses



    What kind of person leaves the Law Library… and ends up becoming one of the most quietly powerful men in Irish racing?

    Garry O’Gorman, that’s who.


    ON Episode 142 of The Fifth Court, Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL meet the former barrister who swapped devilling and district courts for parade rings, pedigrees, handicap marks and the dark arts of Irish flat racing.

    This is law with a glorious smell of turf, horse sweat and mild institutional mischief.


    Garry explains:

    • how he went from Trinity, King’s Inns and the Law Library into racing
    • what a handicapper actually does
    • how trainers try to outfox the system
    • why only one horse can win, but 11 people can still blame the handicapper
    • how Ireland became a global bloodstock superpower
    • why racehorses, judges, barristers and forum shopping all belong in the same conversation

    There is also talk of Phoenix Park Racecourse, Cheltenham, black type, appeals, legal gossip, and the delicious reality that in racing, some people are scandalised by a coup while secretly admiring it.


    This is not one of your solemn legal episodes.

    This is The Fifth Court going full gallop.


    Decisis

    The Decisis case notes on this week’s episode are supported by Charlton Solicitors and Collaborative Practitioners, George’s Street, Dún Laoghaire.

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    36 mins
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