The False Choice: Why Profit and People Aren’t Enemies | Episode 3 cover art

The False Choice: Why Profit and People Aren’t Enemies | Episode 3

The False Choice: Why Profit and People Aren’t Enemies | Episode 3

Listen for free

View show details

About this listen

For decades, leaders have been told to choose: results or relationships, performance or people. It’s a lie.

In this episode, Joe and KayLee dismantle that false choice. From Bob Chapman’s “touch lives” philosophy to the cautionary tales of Wells Fargo, Uber, and the bankrupt studio behind Life of Pi, they show how success built only on metrics collapses — and how culture built only on heart can’t last.

Then they reveal the bridge: the 3Cs of Authentic Leadership — Clarity, Connection, and Collaboration — and the real-world stories that prove it works.

No reviews yet
In the spirit of reconciliation, Audible acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respect to their elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples today.