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In this episode of The Exchange, Tim Whybourne sits down with Grayson McLeod, Chief Operating Officer at Monochrome, to discuss everything from why we need to think more deeply about the demand for Bitcoin (BTC), as the Australian economy does not necessarily present a need for us to invest in BTC, why Bitcoin is likely to move higher over the coming years, and the innovations that Monochrome is making to make it easier and more functional to invest into BTC.

In his role, Grayson oversees the day-to-day operations of the firm’s exchange-traded funds. His focus spans the end-to-end mechanics of the products, including trading, custody, market maker oversight and managing the in-kind application and redemption process for direct Bitcoin transfers.

With eight years of experience working in the Bitcoin space, Grayson brings hands-on insight into the operational challenges of running a regulated crypto investment product. He plays a key role in ensuring Monochrome’s products function seamlessly behind the scenes, bridging the gap between on-chain assets and traditional markets.

Monochrome Disclaimer:

The matters discussed in this episode are general in nature and do not take into account any person’s individual objectives. Past performance is not indicative of future performance. No representation, warranty or undertaking is given or made in relation to the accuracy or completeness of the information presented.

Please review the PDS and TMD (available at https://monochrome.au) and consult a financial adviser before deciding whether to acquire an interest in IBTC or IETH. Noting that investing in bitcoin or ethereum is volatile and extremely high risk.

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The information in this podcast series is for general financial educational purposes only, should not be considered financial advice and is only intended for wholesale clients. That means the information does not consider your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should consider if the information is appropriate for you and your needs. You should always consult your trusted licensed professional adviser before making any investment decision.

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In this episode of The Exchange, Mitch Finnen sits down with Nathan Denchman, Co-Founder and CTO of ProcurePro, to unpack the realities of life as a founder.

Nathan shares his journey from growing up in regional Queensland to building and pivoting multiple start-ups, including the difficult decision to move on from an early legal-tech venture that didn’t survive COVID. The conversation explores the emotional highs and lows of founding a business, the freedom and uncertainty of having no clear path laid out, and what it takes to push through when the answers aren’t obvious.

They discuss how ProcurePro emerged from that period of disruption, why identifying the right problem matters more than the original idea, and how disciplined execution, strong co-founder alignment, and resilient systems have underpinned the company’s growth. Nathan also reflects on the role of AI in construction technology, scaling teams responsibly, and how becoming a father has reshaped his perspective on leadership and time.

For founders, operators, and anyone considering the leap into building something of their own, this episode offers an honest look at the freedom, pressure, and opportunity that come with the founder journey, and why adaptability and execution ultimately define success.

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The information in this podcast series is for general financial educational purposes only, should not be considered financial advice and is only intended for wholesale clients. That means the information does not consider your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should consider if the information is appropriate for you and your needs. You should always consult your trusted licensed professional adviser before making any investment decision.

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In this episode of The Exchange, Ryan Loehr sits down with Julian Biggins, Joint Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder of MA Financial Group, to explore how one of Australia’s leading alternative asset managers has built scale across market cycles.

Julian reflects on founding MA Financial in the wake of the global financial crisis, the evolution of the firm’s real estate and credit platforms, and how MA has expanded across investment banking, asset management, and lending. He shares insights into why core real assets - including retail, office, and operating real estate - continue to play a critical role in diversified portfolios, and how MA identifies opportunities where others see complexity.

The conversation also covers the firm’s recent investments across operating assets, including hospitality and specialised real estate, the rationale behind deploying capital counter-cyclically, and what institutional and private investors should consider as markets recalibrate.

For investors interested in real assets, capital cycles, and building resilient investment platforms, this episode offers a thoughtful perspective from one of Australia’s most experienced alternative investment leaders.

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The information in this podcast series is for general financial educational purposes only, should not be considered financial advice and is only intended for wholesale clients. That means the information does not consider your objectives, financial situation or needs. You should consider if the information is appropriate for you and your needs. You should always consult your trusted licensed professional adviser before making any investment decision.