After another assassination attempt on President Trump, Esau McCaulley, Malcolm Foley and Mike Stralow wrestle with what it means that political violence is starting to feel normal, and why Christians must reject any attempt to justify it in Jesus' name. They unpack the so-called "Christian" logic behind the attacker's manifesto, and explain why the story of Jesus fundamentally undermines violence as a tool for change. Then the conversation turns to the backlash around DEI, where real concerns, bad ideas, and political overreactions have all been thrown into one messy debate. Also this week: why people quietly leave churches, and Producer Mike might need a new nickname.

0:00 - Theme Song

3:02 - Assassination Attempt

6:11 - Christian Non-Violence

9:05 - Identifying with the State

17:35 - Conspiracy Theories

20:53 - Where DEI Backfires

29:48 - The "DEI Bundle"

34:52 - Critiquing DEI Without Being MAGA

39:00 - Pastors and Congregation Numbers

55:24 - End Credits

We used to all watch the same thing, but now our entertainment options to our church options are more dived and fragmented than ever. Justin Giboney joins Esau McCaulley and Mike Stralow to discuss the collapse of monoculture.

Then, Dave Chappelle recently took criticism for performing at a comedy festival in Saudi Arabia, but he made the claim that there is no such thing as clean money anymore. The crew discusses if that's true and how should Christians think about spending, giving, and participating in a system that's already broken. Also, is it fair to tax the rich and does it actually improve society if we do?

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0:00 - Theme Song

1:45 - The Love of Missing Out, LOMO

7:45 - Is Monoculture Dead?

12:28 - Ideology and Entertainment

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24:46 - Dave Chappell and Clear Money

37:10 - Mamdani and Housing Taxes in New York City

49:50 - End Credits

It was the AI image heard around the world. Esau and Mike are joined by Christine Jeske to talk about Trump's infamous AI image depicting him as a Christ figure, and whether it signals a real shift in his evangelical support or just a passing blip. They also dig into Justin Bieber's Coachella performance, asking whether it tapped into something deeper about longing, vulnerability, and public faith. Then the conversation turns to Anthropic's gathering of Christian leaders to explore whether AI could ever be considered a child of God. Finally, Christine shares about her new book, Racial Justice for the Long Haul, and what gives her hope in the midst of so much turmoil right now.

0:00 - Theme Song

2:00 - Justin Bieber's Coachella Laptop Performance

12:13 - The Pope Vs. the President

25:38 - Sponsor - Tyndale - On The BEMA Podcast, Marty Solomon dives deep into the Bible. Learn more at https://navpress.com

26:56 - Can AI Have a Soul?

31:18 - AI and Human Value

55:33 - End Credits