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The Detangled Podcast

The Detangled Podcast

By: Avlon
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The Detangled Podcast by Avlon is a space for textured conversation — created for hair professionals, curious consumers, and anyone passionate about curls, coils, and care. Hosted by Avlon’s Jacqui McIntosh (Education Director) and Louis Driver (Educator), each episode explores the science, culture, and lived experience behind textured hair.

From product insights and professional techniques to identity, representation and education, we’re here to nourish understanding and untangle myths. Add this podcast to your routine — because growth isn’t just for your hair. Together, we’re building community, strand by strand.

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Like, subscribe, and leave a review. Join the conversation with us on social media:

Avlon Europe: @avlonuk

Avlon: @avlon

Follow our hosts:

Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh

Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair

www.avloneurope.co.uk

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Episodes
  • Ep 10. Myths, Legend, and Language
    May 28 2025

    In this informative episode of The Detangled Podcast by Avlon, Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh explore the often-overlooked foundation of healthy hair: the scalp. With Jacqui’s expertise as a trichologist, they take a deep dive into common ingredients, myths, and misconceptions surrounding curly and coily hair care. From decoding industry buzzwords like sulfates, silicones, alcohols, and proteins, to clarifying the importance of pH balance, scalp hygiene, and damage prevention, this episode offers a much-needed demystification of textured hair maintenance. Whether you're a seasoned stylist or someone navigating your own hair journey, Episode 10 is a masterclass in informed, science-led care.

    Key Topics Covered

    • Scalp Health
      • Why scalp care is essential to hair growth and integrity.
      • Common conditions like seborrheic dermatitis, folliculitis, and fungal infections.
      • The role of hygiene, product choice, and professional assessments in prevention.
      • The importance of seeing a trichologist
    • Ingredient Deep Dive: Myth-Busting and Best Practices
      • Sulphates: Often demonised, but still useful in removing heavy buildup when used appropriately.
      • Silicones: Beneficial for textured hair if water-soluble and well-formulated.
      • Alcohols: Differentiating between fatty alcohols (moisturising) and short-chain alcohols (drying) based on hair type.
      • Proteins: Used to rebuild strength and elasticity, but require a moisture balance to prevent brittleness or breakage.
    • pH Balance & Product Science
      • Understanding the pH scale (0–14), and why shampoos for textured hair should fall between 4.5–5.5.
      • The difference between neutralising (locks structure, e.g., in perms) and normalising (restores pH, e.g., post-chemical treatments).
    • Damage vs. Compromise
      • Redefining “damage” in client conversations to “compromised” to reduce stigma.
      • Examples of common, often overlooked forms of damage: improper detangling, wet brushing, buildup, and poor product use.
    • Protective Practices
      • The importance of leave-in conditioning, heat protection, and layering moisture at every stage of the process.

    Stay Connected

    Follow the hosts:

    • Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair
    • Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh

    Follow Avlon:

    • Avlon Europe: @Avloneurope
    • Avlon: @Avlon

    Production Credits

    • Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh
    • Recorded at: London Podcast Studios
    • Cover Artwork Illustration: @bibanabi
    • Cover Design: Louis Driver

    Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

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    49 mins
  • EP.9 Curls, Coils and Colour
    May 28 2025

    In this episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-hosts Jacqui McIntosh and Louis Driver are joined by Hannah Marcia to break down the essentials of colouring curly and coily hair. They explore the science behind textured hair, common colour myths, practical tips for stylists, and how to achieve stunning colour results without compromising curl integrity.

    Key Topics Covered

    • Textured Hair Structure: Curls have more open cuticles, making them lift quicker—but also more prone to damage. A “lower and slower” approach helps protect the hair.
    • Placement & Technique: Traditional foil methods often fall short. Use visual, freehand techniques to work with the 3D nature of curls.
    • Warm Tones: Gold and warm tones enhance shine on curls, which reflect less light than straighter textures. Clients should be educated about realistic outcomes.
    • Product Choice Matters: High-lift tints, direct dyes, and bond builders offer gentle alternatives to bleach. Go in with intention—know your “why” behind every product.
    • Myth-Busting: Colour doesn’t automatically loosen curl patterns. Overlapping or incorrect processing causes damage—not colour itself.
    • Aftercare Is Essential: Moisture, protein, heat protection, and salon check-ins extend colour life and maintain curl health.
    • Client Communication: Transparency is key. Stylists can’t protect hair they don’t know the history of. Educate clients on maintenance and realistic colour goals.
    • Creating Dimension: Leaving sections out of colour is as important as what’s coloured—depth enhances curl definition and longevity.
    • Formulation Strategy: Consider porosity and how textured hair reflects tone. Add warmth and pigment to prevent flat, dull results.

    Hero Products & Pro Tips

    Louis’s Picks:

    • Uberliss Bond Healing Spray + Frizz Elixir: The ultimate combo for post-colour care—moisture, protection, and shine without weight.

    Hannah’s Pick:

    • Uberliss Colour Sustainers: Great for maintaining tone at home, adding pigment and moisture between salon visits.

    Pro Tips:

    • Louis: Always weigh formulas for accuracy—consistency matters, especially on fragile textures.
    • Hannah: Be intentional—match your lightener or tint to the goal and always prioritise hair health.

    Stay Connected

    Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon

    Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis Driver (@louisdoeshair)

    Guest: Hannah Marcia (@hannahmarciaa)

    Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

    Produced by: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis Driver

    Artwork: Habiba Nabisubi (@bibanabi)

    Design: Louis Driver

    Recorded at: London Podcast Studios

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    30 mins
  • Ep.8 Texture On Set
    May 21 2025

    In this insightful episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-hosts Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh are joined by award-winning session stylist and educator Junior Green, along with returning guest Avlon Creative Pashcan'el Mitchell to explore the realities of working with textured hair on set.

    Together, they unpack the creative, technical and logistical challenges of delivering hair excellence in fast-paced editorial, TV and film environments. From Bridgerton to BAFTA red carpets, the episode spotlights the skills and adaptability required to represent texture authentically and professionally. Whether you're a new stylist, an aspiring session artist or an educator, this episode offers grounded wisdom, career advice, and inspiration for navigating textured hair work beyond the salon.

    Key Topics Covered

    • What “texture on set” really means in professional settings
    • The ongoing challenges of styling afro hair in editorial, fashion, TV and film
    • Experiences working on major productions like Bridgerton
    • Why core hairdressing skills (setting, pinning, classic dressing) still matter
    • The time disparity when styling afro-textured hair vs. European textures
    • Equipment must-haves and how to prepare for unpredictable working conditions
    • The role of mentorship and lifelong learning in a stylist’s journey
    • Building collections: structured planning vs. spontaneous creativity
    • Industry icons, sources of inspiration and the legacy of textured hair in visual media

    Stay Connected

    Avlon Europe: @avlonuk

    Avlon: @avlon

    Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis Driver

    Guests: Junior Green @juniorgreenhair & Pashcanell Mitchell @pashcanel

    Production Credits

    Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh

    Recorded at: London Podcast Studios

    Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi

    Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

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    42 mins

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