East Coast/West Coast calendar tribulations aside, June and Jessica run a safe space for all. Running on fumes this week, we are too burnt out to read the book on burnout; but there's plenty to be grateful for and though we may have to bury our secrets in a bush, you can trust that there are life lessons to be learned in every diner and stadium parking lot across the nation.

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What's your favorite childhood food? Could you describe it in an appetizing way? If so, we're gonna need you to reconsider your answer.

Jess reports on her and Casey’s whirlwind live Small Talk tour featuring American’s Sweetheart, Professor Jake Cornell, as well a youth sports ref with a bad attitude. June has some passionate words for both, and a Mother's Day quandary (with a very clear resolution).

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You think you're burned out? Try harboring a secret, second family. This week, June and Jessica delve into the seedy worlds of gardening, missing persons, and Jessica makes a shocking revelation about her connection to Neanderthals. Rosemary hides, but you don't have to. Be proud of who you are. You. Be. You.

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This week special guests, Casey Wilson and Danielle Schneider, are here to dish on small talk. Could a neighborly exchange save your life? Maybe not, but the science shows it will at least improve it!

Listen to THE ART OF SMALL TALK wherever you get your audiobooks.

Apple Books: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/the-art-of-small-talk-go-shallow-to-go-deep/id1737294114
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/309by6YVsUZED5MhGlV0H8?si=TDPcSzeWQZKuggmkDRNh9g
Audible: https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Art-of-Small-Talk-Audiobook/B0CPM98G3J
Pushkin: https://www.pushkin.fm/audiobooks/the-art-of-small-talk

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Were you a latchkey kid? Do you need to talk about it? This week, June and Jess would like to see some stats on the power of the adult latchkey kid, as they reflect on their own disparate childhoods.

Also, get ready to plant your bulbs, babe, a message from Professor Jake Cornell on why we need Winter 1.5 to keep us all in check.

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This week we revisit a special episode. June and Jessica are back to hosting dinner parties, debuting new accoutrements and taking NOTES. June also learns new things about Jessica and one of which includes her never having had a margarita?!! Then, the gals welcome their personal Consigliere, Jessica Chaffin (Hacks, Ask Ronna) to the podcast. The three gals discuss unannounced drop ins, the depths of motherhood, and how Jessica’s alter ego, Ronna Glickman, helped them all grow into adult women.

Deep Divers, we cannot stress this enough DO NOT COOK.

Listen to more Jessica Chaffin as Ronna Glickman on the Ask Ronna podcast!

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ask-ronna/id1483872464

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June is back from Miami with all the laughs and another strong argument for First Flight of the Day. Jess has already had a Tracy Flick morning and is searching for a recovery from the ever-present burnout. Together, they have possibly found the answer as we ask ourselves and our family members/colleagues to, “Own Your Bucket.”

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Husbands are lurking, per USUAL, and the gals wonder if there might be a witch hunt brewing! Do you know what kind of partner you have? Are they an Elevator, Brother, Ally or… Stranger? Then, Jess shocks June with how much she HATES space and that she might be a flat-earther. Remember, Deep Divers, when the aliens come, it will be JUNE who invited them.

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