🎙️ Episode Title: John Gets Interviewed: The Story Behind Spoiled Fruit

🎧 Episode Description:

We’re back—and kicking things off with a role reversal. In this special episode of The Deconstructionists, Adam returns to the mic (yes, really!) to interview John about his new investigative podcast Spoiled Fruit: Faith & Power, which officially drops Tuesday, May 6th.

After over a year of research, interviews, and late-night editing sessions, Spoiled Fruit is ready to be heard. In this episode, we unpack what it’s all about: the rise and fall of a once-promising church movement, how empire-building corrupted the mission, and what happens when growth is prioritized over accountability.

John shares the personal story behind the project, what inspired it, what he uncovered, and why this podcast matters now more than ever. We also talk about the deep emotional weight of telling these stories—and why some of the full-length interviews from Spoiled Fruit will be released right here on The Deconstructionists feed in the coming weeks.

👀 Adam will be back for more episodes soon—and we promise, the next topic will be a little lighter.

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Welcome back to The Deconstructionists Podcast!

Today, we’re excited to re-release one of our most beloved conversations with Father Richard Rohr — a deep-dive interview we originally titled “Richard Rohr 101.”

This is different from the Father Rohr episode we re-released a few weeks ago — that earlier conversation gave a broad overview of his work.

This one? It goes deeper — exploring contemplation, non-duality, spiritual transformation, the Universal Christ, and how we move through the stages of faith with authenticity and courage.

Whether you’re encountering Richard Rohr for the first time or revisiting his wisdom, we think this conversation will challenge and inspire you.

🔥 Big Announcement!

My new investigative podcast, Spoiled Fruit: Faith & Power, launches May 6th!

Over a year in the making, Spoiled Fruit takes a hard look at what happens when spiritual movements lose their way — when empire building, growth, and power take precedence over care, accountability, and integrity.

Through investigative reporting and real human stories, we reveal the systemic failures, hidden scandals, and human costs behind modern evangelical institutions.

👉 Subscribe now so you don’t miss the premiere!

🎧 Listen & Subscribe to Spoiled Fruit:

• https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spoiled-fruit-faith-power/id1806119673

www.spoiledfruitpodcast.com

📚 Resources & Links from Today’s Episode:

Father Richard Rohr:

• Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC) – Founder’s organization for teaching and spiritual formation

• Books by Richard Rohr

• Falling Upward: A Spirituality for the Two Halves of Life

• The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and Believe

• Everything Belongs: The Gift of Contemplative Prayer

• Daily Meditations from Richard Rohr

• Center for Action and Contemplation Podcast Network

Follow Father Rohr:

• Instagram: @cacradicalgrace

• YouTube: Center for Action and Contemplation

🎵 Music Credits:

• Theme Song: “Oh, Church” by Forrest Clay

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• Background Music: Selections by Message To Bears

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Big thanks to both Forrest Clay and Message To Bears for creating the beautiful sonic atmosphere that supports these conversations.

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Episode Description:

In this special re-release, we revisit our 2016 conversation with Father Richard Rohr, a renowned Franciscan friar and ecumenical teacher celebrated for his profound insights into Christian mysticism, contemplation, and action. Father Rohr’s teachings have guided countless individuals on their spiritual journeys, encouraging a deeper understanding of faith and the interconnectedness of all things. Whether you’re hearing this dialogue for the first time or revisiting it, Father Rohr’s wisdom remains as transformative as ever.

Guest Information:

Father Richard Rohr

Father Richard Rohr is a Franciscan priest and the founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC) in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Established in 1987, the CAC serves as a hub for contemplative education and practices, aiming to equip individuals to work for positive change in the world. Father Rohr has authored numerous books, including The Universal Christ, Falling Upward, and Everything Belongs.

•Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC): https://cac.org/

•Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CenterforActionandContemplation/

•YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMkqKAtSgijU439fJUNHnkA

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•Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deconstructionists/id1080170463

•Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Ds1MOzs0z4o4prkkMQ6on

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Support the Center for Action and Contemplation:

If Father Rohr’s teachings resonate with you, consider exploring more of his work and supporting the Center for Action and Contemplation. The CAC offers a wealth of resources, including online courses, daily meditations, and publications aimed at fostering spiritual growth and contemplative action.

•Website: https://cac.org/

•YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMkqKAtSgijU439fJUNHnkA