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The Chief Customer Officer Podcast

The Chief Customer Officer Podcast

By: Jay Nathan & Jeff Breunsbach
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Conversations about digital experience and AI.

2026 Jay Nathan & Jeff Breunsbach
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  • EP005: Building Predictive Customer Success with AI w/ Justin Chappell
    Feb 5 2026

    What does world-class digital customer experience actually look like?

    In this episode, Justin Chappell, Head of Digital Strategy at OneTrust, breaks down the evolution of customer success from reactive firefighting to predictive, AI-powered engagement. Whether you're building your first digital CS motion or looking to integrate AI agents into your customer journey, this conversation offers actionable insights.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS

    • The CS Evolution Framework: Why moving from reactive → proactive → predictive requires fundamentally different thinking (and why proactive is closer to reactive than you might think)
    • The 3 Pillars of World-Class Digital CX: Personalized, Predictive, and Digital-First—and how to operationalize each
    • Dirty Data Isn't a Blocker: How predictive models can actually help you identify which data matters while learning from what's usable
    • The Power of Simply Asking: Why the best renewal signal is giving customers three options—Yes, No, or Undecided—and how to act on each
    • Onboarding That Works: The pilot process that cut first-time-to-value from 44 days to 8 days (and the customer feedback that made it possible)
    • The Future CS Team Structure: New roles like AI Architect, Knowledge & AI Readiness Specialist, and Business Value Architect
    • Monetizing Customer Success: How success packages create recurring revenue while delivering differentiated experiences

    ABOUT OUR GUEST

    Justin Chappell is the Head of Digital Strategy at OneTrust, where he oversees digital customer experience for 93% of the company's customer base. He's known for keeping things simple and saying what others are thinking.

    Connect with Justin on LinkedIn

    CHAPTERS

    • 01:17 - The Evolution of Customer Success: Reactive to Proactive to Predictive
    • 04:11 - What "Predictive" Really Means (And Why It's Different from Proactive)
    • 08:44 - Dirty Data Isn't a Blocker: How Predictive Models Actually Work
    • 12:09 - The Truth About NPS Response Rates and Vanity Metrics
    • 20:49 - Starting from Zero: Implementing AI at OneTrust
    • 23:30 - The 3 Pillars of World-Class Digital Customer Experience
    • 31:10 - Lessons Learned: Roles, Timing, and Relevance
    • 35:39 - Building the Digital Tech Stack: CRM, CSP, and Community
    • 42:15 - Customer-Facing AI Agents: The Agentic CSM
    • 46:10 - The Future CS Team: AI Architect, BVA & New Roles
    • 53:38 - Managing AI Agents Like You'd Manage Your Best CSM
    • 59:24 - How AI Changes the CSM Role (Hint: They Can Handle More)

    About the Show:

    Chief Customer Officer Podcast is a show about real strategies for customer-led growth in the AI era—from leaders actually executing, not just talking about it.

    Your Hosts:

    • Jay Nathan – CEO of Balboa Solutions and Co-Founder of ChiefCustomerOfficer.io
    • Jeff Breunsbach – Head of Customer Success at Junction and Co-Founder of ChiefCustomerOfficer.io
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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • EP003: Context is King
    Jan 23 2026

    In this episode of The Chief Customer Officer Podcast, Jeff Breunsbach and Jay Nathan delve into the evolving role of AI in branding and customer experience. Jay shares his recent experiences using AI tools like Claude and ChatGPT to refine branding strategies for his companies, Balboa and Greenshoot Innovation. They discuss the importance of context in enterprise AI applications, emphasizing that the effectiveness of AI agents hinges on their understanding of user preferences and business nuances.

    The conversation transitions into a broader discussion about the future of enterprise software, highlighting the need for reliable systems that can integrate AI capabilities while maintaining deterministic workflows.

    The hosts also explore the implications of AI on job security and enterprise software, countering the prevailing narrative of doom and gloom. They argue that rather than replacing jobs, AI can enhance productivity by automating mundane tasks, allowing teams to focus on customer interactions. The episode wraps up with recommendations for AI-related resources and discussions on the potential for AI to personalize customer experiences, ultimately leading to more tailored and effective service delivery.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Weekend AI Experiments

    02:37 The Importance of Context in AI

    04:51 AI's Impact on Enterprise Software

    08:57 Balancing Deterministic Workflows with AI

    11:15 Personalization and Customer Experience

    16:38 AI in Developer Tools and Integration

    21:32 Recommended Resources and Closing Thoughts

    About the Show:

    Chief Customer Officer Podcast is a show about real strategies for customer-led growth in the AI era—from leaders actually executing, not just talking about it.

    Your Hosts:

    • Jay Nathan – CEO of Balboa Solutions and Co-Founder of ChiefCustomerOfficer.io
    • Jeff Breunsbach – Head of Customer Success at Junction and Co-Founder of ChiefCustomerOfficer.io
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    25 mins
  • EP004: Consensus on GRR, none on Customer Success
    Jan 29 2026

    In this episode, Jeff and Jay discuss the evolving landscape of customer success, the integration of AI tools, and the importance of gross revenue retention. They explore the metrics that define customer success roles, the challenges faced by early-stage companies, and the need for clear compensation structures.

    The conversation highlights the significance of creating effective customer success plans and the necessity of aligning customer success efforts with overall business goals.

    Takeaways

    AI tools are transforming how we approach customer success. Customer success metrics are often poorly defined across organizations. Gross revenue retention is becoming a critical focus for investors. The structure of customer success teams can impact their effectiveness. Compensation for customer success roles needs to reflect their contributions to revenue. Early-stage companies must prioritize customer success to drive growth. Separation of roles within customer success can lead to better outcomes. Customer success should be a company-wide initiative, not just a team effort. Creating autonomy for customer success teams can enhance performance. Defining clear success plans is essential for customer retention.

    Chapters

    00:00 Website Redesign and AI Integration

    02:50 The Evolution of AI Tools

    05:28 Customer Success Metrics and Reporting

    08:18 The Role of Customer Success in Revenue Generation

    11:09 Compensation Structures in Customer Success

    14:06 Strategic Decisions in Customer Success

    16:51 Navigating Growth in Early-Stage Companies

    26:40 Sales Strategy and Market Share Growth

    28:21 Customer Success and Implementation Challenges

    30:06 Specialization in Customer Success Roles

    32:14 Creating Autonomy and Predictability in Sales

    34:51 Understanding Private Equity and Its Impact

    37:37 The Importance of Gross Revenue Retention

    40:16 The Role of Customer Success in Retention

    43:07 Innovative Approaches to Customer Success Plans

    About the Show:

    Chief Customer Officer Podcast is a show about real strategies for customer-led growth in the AI era—from leaders actually executing, not just talking about it.

    Your Hosts:

    • Jay Nathan – CEO of Balboa Solutions and Co-Founder of ChiefCustomerOfficer.io
    • Jeff Breunsbach – Head of Customer Success at Junction and Co-Founder of ChiefCustomerOfficer.io

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    47 mins
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