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The Change Agents Podcast

The Change Agents Podcast

By: ServiceNow
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The podcast where work flows, buzzwords go, and digital transformation gets the side-eye it sometimes deserves. In each episode, we chat with the change makers, risk takers, and quietly brilliant minds behind real change – no filters, no fluff, just the good stuff.

Expect tales of automation magic, AI mishaps, platform glow-ups, and the occasional hot take on why legacy systems should come with hazard pay. It’s sharp, a little weird, and totally worth your coffee break. (Or wine break – we won’t judge. In fact, we’ll probably join you!)

This is transformation – with better banter.

Hosted by ServiceNow's human agents: Peter McDonnell, Chief Transformation Officer and Katrina Read, Director of Transformation APJ

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Episodes
  • GenAI: Hype, Hope, Happening, or Here to Stay?
    Jul 29 2025

    We all know someone who thinks GenAI can do literally everything (probably the same person who says “let’s circle back” in every meeting). 🙄

    In our latest episode, Pete & Kat dive into:

    ✅ Why “AI-washing” is the new greenwashing
    ✅ Use cases that ACTUALLY matter (and save your weekends!)
    ✅ How guardrails and trust will make or break your AI strategy
    ✅ Why the future is human-led, AI-augmented

    If you’re still waiting on the platform, this train is leaving the station FAST. Winners won’t be those with the flashiest tools - they’ll be the ones with trustworthy AI and people on board.

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    27 mins
  • The great CRM unbundling: Do we even need one system to rule them all?
    Jul 15 2025

    Did your CRM promise a utopia but delivered a fancy Rolodex with a UX degree?

    Join Pete and Kat as they bravely poke the sacred cow of CRM and ask the tough questions like:

    ❓ Why does your telco need seven days and a séance to fix your modem?
    ❓ Why does your virtual agent sound like a confused intern filling out a colour chart?
    ❓ And why does it still take 5.2 days to solve a problem that should take 30 minutes?

    It’s the CRM roast you didn’t know you needed - with real data, real frustration, and a really broken Wi-Fi modem.

    🧠 Expect:

    • Insights from the customer service research report
    • Tales of tech trauma and loyalty on life support
    • A vision for fixing the “messy middle” with workflow orchestration and GenAI
    • ...and a heartfelt plea: "Do it for Kat. Please. She’s still on hold."

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    24 mins
  • Are We Still Ignoring The People Part?
    Jul 2 2025

    PSA for anyone still thinking transformation = tech upgrade: You’re doing it wrong!

    Join Pete and Kat as they kick off The Change Agents Podcast with a spicy convo on why people are the real engine of transformation. From HR to the help desk, they're putting the human back in the digital.

    Expect:
    👩‍💻 A reality check on tech-led change
    🧠 Why understanding the why matters
    🤝 Leadership lessons in trust, transparency, and co-design
    🧯 A light roasting of change theatre (yes, we're looking at you, PowerPoint warriors)
    🚀 How to avoid automating chaos and start building real momentum

    If you've ever sat through a transformation initiative that forgot to invite the people actually affected... this one’s for you. Let’s stop pretending culture change comes from a software install.

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    24 mins
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