Sam Roberts, Bitcoin treasury adviser at Cartwright, joins Jordan to unpack what’s really happening behind the scenes of workplace pensions, and why more institutions are starting to think seriously about resilience.

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CHAPTERS:

00:23 Sam Returns After the UK Pension Breakthrough

02:38 Where Workplace Pension Money Really Goes

08:13 If You Could Redesign Pensions One Change

11:11 Does AI Push People Toward Hard Money

17:51 Why Deflation Sounds Crazy At First

21:04 Are Institutions Thinking Differently About Risk

26:08 What Crack Up Boom Means

30:55 Why Most Businesses Still Aren’t Prepared

33:59 Why Small Bitcoin Allocations Matter

37:57 Sam’s Role as Non Exec Chairman at XCE

43:42 Why Businesses Will Need Chief Bitcoin Officers

49:05 Beyond Treasury Payments Payroll Suppliers

55:55 Simple Steps to Build Resilience Now

59:50 Adoption The Chasm And Solving Real Problems

01:01:36 Closing Thoughts

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Ben Berry, Managing Director at English Lakes Hotels and Low Bay Resort and Spa, joins Jordan to discuss what it really takes to integrate Bitcoin into a UK hospitality business.

They cover how you build a true resort experience in the Lake District, where AI tools like ChatGPT are already improving marketing and operations, and why hospitality still relies on people even as automation accelerates. Ben also shares his Bitcoin journey, why he sees “Bitcoin and everything else” as two separate baskets, and how he’s driving adoption through payments, holding BTC, and building a circular economy with suppliers.

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CHAPTERS:

00:00 Welcome to Low Bay

01:49 Family Legacy Since 1952

04:39 Why Bitcoin Fits a Family Business

06:46 Building the Resort and Spa

08:26 Bitcoin Business Network

09:47 Inside the Resort

11:13 Hotel to Resort

13:51 Taking Over as MD

18:39 Kids, Legacy and AI

25:05 How They Use AI

36:12 Pivot to Bitcoin

37:41 First Bitcoin Rabbit Hole

38:48 Altcoins and Early Mining

39:33 Coinbase Doubts and Ripple

41:53 Back in 2017

44:02 Leverage and Low Time Preference

45:12 Bitcoin and Politics

48:18 Elected by 7 Votes

54:31 The Dark Side of Politics

01:01:38 From Council to Company

01:04:40 Integrating Bitcoin Payments

01:09:27 Training the Team

01:11:12 Final Thoughts and Invitation

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Why This Resort Accepts Bitcoin Payments

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Joe, Scott and Jez join Jordan to reflect on what changed in the UK Bitcoin landscape over 2025, and what that signals for 2026. They discuss how conversations are shifting from price talk to the deeper issues of living standards, broken incentives, and why more people now sense that something in the system is failing.They explore the “debasement trade”, the renewed attention on gold and silver, and why Bitcoin increasingly stands out as a practical way for individuals and businesses to protect long-term effort and savings. The episode also looks at how Bitcoin education is evolving, why calm explanations matter more than hype, and why business adoption could become the key driver of UK normalisation.CONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: hello@bitcoincollective.coCONTACT JOE:X: https://x.com/SatmoJoeLinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/joe-bryan-763946a/CONTACT SCOTT:X: https://x.com/btconlyscottLinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/scott-p-ellam-5a097449CONTACT JEZ:X: https://x.com/Jcastweet00:00 Understanding Bitcoin's Potential01:03 Holiday Reflections and Year-End Wrap-Up03:17 Business Success and Bitcoin Adoption06:58 Shifting Perceptions on Bitcoin11:30 Economic Realities and Bitcoin's Role28:58 Peter McCormack's Breaking Point29:26 The Importance of Bitcoin Education30:30 Struggles of Modern Families31:19 Bitcoin's Marketing Problem32:48 Generational Wealth and Housing34:15 Bitcoin as a Beacon of Hope34:46 Conversations with Family about Bitcoin42:02 The Decline of Excellence in the UK47:33 Bitcoin's Role in Business and Society52:22 Looking Forward to 2026 and Beyond01:01:50 Closing Thoughts and Holiday WishesREAD OUR NEWSLETTER:https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not meant to represent financial, trade or investment advice.Why Bitcoin Is Starting to Feel Inevitable⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.#Bitcoin #BitcoinUK #SoundMoney