The legendary MarkK from Australia jumps on the Big Red Bus to talk about the Bulls recent team teardown at the All Star Break. See Red Fred also asks him his thoughts on the growing issues with tanking.

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Part 2 of Episode 238. See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus continue the discussion and unpack the frustration building within the Bulls fanbase.

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In Part 1 of this episode, See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus react to the negative response surrounding the Coby and Ayo trades. They unpack the frustration building within the Bulls fanbase and even among loyal listeners on the Big Red Bus, exploring why the moves landed the way they did emotionally. Fred caps the segment with his car analogy to frame how fans are processing change, expectations, and direction.

Part 2 will be up this weekend.

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See Red Fred opens with updated thoughts on Coby White following news that broke after his initial recording with Podfather Doug Thonus. Then, tune in for a special emergency segment with Fred and Doug reacting to the Jaden Ivey trade and saying adios to Vooch as the Bulls signal a new direction.

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The Big Red Bus – Episode 236 | Episode Notes

5:00 – Will Coby White Be Traded?
See Red Fred and Doug make a bet on whether or not he will be traded.

10:00 – Building Around Matas Buzelis and Josh Giddey
Is it a good idea?

15:55 – Nikola Vučević Trade Rumors
The Bulls Offer Vooch to Boston, and they say No.

19:30 – Possible Centers for Next Season
Surveying short-term and long-term options if the Bulls move on from Vooch.

26:00 – Bulls Trading for Giannis Antetokounmpo
Could the Chicago Bulls actually pull it off—and should they?

34:00 – Trading for Clint Capela
Is Capela a realistic, stabilizing option at center, and what would it cost?

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On this episode of The Big Red Bus, See Red Fred and Doug dig into three timely Bulls topics that sit right at the heart of the team’s present and future.

Segment 1: Coby White Trade Rumors (5:00)
We open the show by unpacking the latest buzz around potential trade scenarios involving Coby White. What’s real, what’s noise, and what would moving Coby say about where the Bulls think they are right now? We look at value, fit, timing, and whether these rumors reflect opportunistic listening or a more fundamental shift in direction.

Segment 2: Matas Buzelis Development Check-In (24:27)
The middle segment focuses on Matas Buzelis and his early development. While the upside and flashes are obvious, we zero in on his defensive struggles—positioning, awareness, and physicality—and talk through what’s normal for a young player adjusting to NBA speed versus what needs to improve quickly for him to earn consistent trust and minutes.

Segment 3: Vooch and the Warriors
We close by discussing the rumors around Vooch and the Warriors. Is this about asset management, clearing developmental runway, or trying to recalibrate the roster without fully blowing it up? We debate the Bulls’ options—and the risks tied to each path.

A classic Big Red Bus episode: rumors, development, and plenty of Bulls reality checks along the way. 🟥🚌

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See Red Fred and Doug Thonus kick off the Big Red Bus with a burst of Chicago Bears excitement before quickly steering back toward Bulls country. Fred then unveils his “Lost in the Forest” fast-food survival game, prompting laughs, debate, and some very strong hunger-based opinions. He wraps it all by attempting—and mostly failing—to tie the game back to the Bulls fanbase’s growing excitement around Matas Buzelis, which only makes the segment more entertaining.

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In this latest episode of The Big Red Bus, See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus dive headfirst into the current disaster unfolding with the Chicago Bulls. With Coby White and Josh Giddey — the team’s two best players and starting backcourt — both sidelined with injuries, the Bulls find themselves staring into the abyss with no clear timeline for either player’s return.

Fred and Doug break down what this means for a team already walking a tightrope between relevance and collapse. They discuss how the loss of both guards exposes the roster’s lack of direction — and how it magnifies the front office’s long-standing failures in roster construction and long-term planning.

The conversation also explores what this moment means for the future:
• Tank or Try for Spots 4-6 1:00
• What are the next steps with Coby? 18:00
• Matas Struggles 24:00

With frustration, honesty, and a little gallows humor, Fred and Doug unpack the reality Bulls fans don’t want to face — but can no longer ignore.

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