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The AI Rules Podcast

The AI Rules Podcast

By: Council on AI Governance
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The AI Rules Podcast from the Council on AI Governance covers AI how developments are affecting business, law and society.2025 Economics Management Management & Leadership
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  • The AI Archipelago
    Mar 4 2026

    Michelle De Mooy is the author of The AI Archipelago. She is the Principal of De Mooy Consulting. In previous roles, she served as Director of the Tech & Public Policy program at Georgetown's McCourt School of Public Policy and Director of the Privacy and Data Project at the Center for Democracy and Technology.

    Michelle joined Var Shankar to discuss:

    • How AI capabilities and risks emerge from networked interactions between systems
    • The role of 'AI culture' - and how to measure it
    • How to improve AI governance approaches that focus on individual AI systems
    • Why we may have limited time to shape AI's collective behavior
    • How policymakers and AI governance practitioners should respond
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    28 mins
  • Policy Leadership in the Age of AI
    Nov 18 2025

    Assemblymember Alex Bores is a New York state lawmaker and sponsor of the Responsible AI Safety and Education (RAISE) Act.

    Alex joined Var Shankar to discuss:

    • What drew him to the AI space as a lawmaker
    • Emerging AI opportunities and risks
    • How the Empire AI effort is strengthening New York's economy
    • The RAISE Act and its future
    • How lawmakers in other jurisdictions should think about AI
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    25 mins
  • On the WEF Playbook on Advancing Responsible AI Innovation
    Oct 2 2025

    Cathy Li leads AI initiatives at the World Economic Forum. Recently, the Forum's AI Governance Alliance released a Playbook on Advancing Responsible AI Innovation.

    Cathy joined Var Shankar to discuss:

    • Why the speed of AI transformation was a theme at Davos
    • How WEF's new playbook provides actionable guidance for policymakers and practitioners
    • The Turing / LEGO project that enabled kids to have meaningful input into AI design
    • Why interoperability is critical for AI governance
    • How WEF's AI work spans fields as varied as energy, robotics, competitiveness and regional collaboration
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    20 mins
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