Episodes

  • S8E10 - Building the World We Want for Ourselves

    S8E10 - Building the World We Want for Ourselves
    Dec 23 2025
    In the final episode of season 8, Jenn and Daren explore the relentless pursuit of dreams and the journey to fulfillment. They share their personal experiences of moving to Maryland, overcoming challenges, and ultimately finding happiness in their new life. Most importantly, they emphasize the importance of perseverance and the joy that comes from achieving one's goals, despite the difficulties faced along the way.
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    34 mins
  • S8E9 - Black Food and Gender Roles

    S8E9 - Black Food and Gender Roles
    Nov 25 2025
    In this episode of "That Black Couple," Jenn and Daren return after a break with a discussion on the intersection of Black food and gender roles. They share personal anecdotes about their relationships with food, exploring how their upbringing shaped their culinary skills and perspectives. Then they delve into the cultural significance of cooking within the Black community, emphasizing the need to move beyond traditional gender norms that often dictate who should prepare meals. They highlight the importance of food as a survival skill and a means of fostering community connections, particularly in light of the decline in Black farm ownership. They encourage listeners to embrace a more inclusive approach to food preparation and to recognize the spiritual and communal aspects of sharing meals. Tune in for a celebration of the richness of Black culinary heritage and the power of collective nourishment.
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    33 mins
  • S8E8 - Black August for a New Generation

    S8E8 - Black August for a New Generation
    Aug 30 2025
    In this episode, the hosts discuss the significance of Black August, emphasizing the importance of consistency in activism, the historical context of Black liberation movements, and the need for education and in-person connections in the fight for justice. They reflect on the challenges posed by social media and the necessity of courage in activism, while also highlighting the ongoing struggles for liberation and the power of community engagement.
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    30 mins
  • S8E7 - Moving Away From Toxic Relationships

    S8E7 - Moving Away From Toxic Relationships
    Aug 30 2025
    In this episode, Dr. Jenn and Daren discuss the importance of moving away from toxic relationships in various aspects of life, including friendships, family, and work. They explore how personal growth can lead to the end of certain relationships and emphasize the need for accountability, boundaries, and self-worth in maintaining healthy connections. The conversation highlights the signs of toxicity and the necessity of demanding better treatment from others.
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    39 mins
  • S8E6 - The Roots of Toxic Masculinity in Black Communities

    S8E6 - The Roots of Toxic Masculinity in Black Communities
    Jul 13 2025
    In this episode of “That Black Couple,” Jenn and Daren delve into the complexities of toxic masculinity within Black communities. They discuss the impact of patriarchy on Black men, including the emotional struggles they face in unpacking societal expectations and behaviors. Further, they highlight the crucial role women play in challenging these toxic behaviors. Through personal reflections and references to influential thinkers like bell hooks, they emphasize the importance of community accountability and emotional expression in fostering healthier relationships and promoting change. Reference Material * The Will to Change - bell hooks: https://amzn.to/4lXgiat * Sister Outsider - Audre Lorde: https://amzn.to/46cNSEN
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    52 mins
  • S8E5 - Parenting While Black and Polyamorous

    S8E5 - Parenting While Black and Polyamorous
    Jun 23 2025
    In this episode of That Black Couple, Jenn and Daren discuss the complexities of parenting while being polyamorous, addressing common misconceptions and societal concerns. They explore the benefits of polyamorous households for children, emphasizing open communication, community support, and the importance of diverse experiences. The conversation highlights the need for honesty and authenticity in parenting, ultimately showcasing how polyamory can contribute to raising well-adjusted, happy children. Reference Material * What About the Children?! Children in Polyamorous Families: Stigma, Myths, and Realities - https://www.whatdidshesay.ca/2019/03/25/what-about-the-children-children-in-polyamorous-families-stigma-myths-and-realities/ * “It’s someone who means a lot to me, and who means even more to mom”: Children’s views on the romantic partners of their polyamorous parents - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11521776/ * Polyamorous Relationships: Children’s Perceptions - https://inrs.ca/en/news/polyamorous-relationships-childrens-perceptions/ * A WHOLE VILLAGE: POLYAMOROUS FAMILIES AND THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CHILD STANDARD - https://community.lawschool.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Sheff-et-al.-final.pdf
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    42 mins
  • S8E4 - Celebrating 19 Years of Marriage

    S8E4 - Celebrating 19 Years of Marriage
    May 26 2025
    In this anniversary episode of That Black Couple, Jenn and Darren celebrate 19 years of marriage and 22 years of being together. They dive into the dynamics of their non-traditional relationship, discussing their unique identities as a monogamous person and a polyamorous person. The couple shares insights on communication, the importance of understanding one's own needs, and how to navigate love and relationships outside of societal norms. Join them as they reflect on their journey and provide valuable tips for anyone interested in exploring polyamory.
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    45 mins
  • S8E3 - “The Black Legacy Model”

    S8E3 - “The Black Legacy Model”
    May 12 2025
    In this episode of That Black Couple Podcast, Jenn and Daren dive into the thought-provoking concept of the Black Legacy Model, inspired by a viral TikTok series. They explore the four pillars that define this model: income, labor, community and family investment, and career flexibility. The couple reflects on how these ideas resonate with their own 19-year journey of partnership, emphasizing the importance of mutual respect and teamwork in relationships. As they unpack each pillar, Jenn and Daren discuss the challenges faced by Black couples in a society that often imposes traditional norms that don't serve them. They candidly share their experiences of navigating gender roles, pooling resources, and the significance of supporting each other's individual growth. They challenge listeners to rethink conventional relationship dynamics and embrace a more collaborative approach. Join them for a rich conversation that not only highlights the realities of Black relationships but also offers insights into building a legacy rooted in love, partnership, and community.
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    26 mins