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Taking on Apple with Nothing CEO Carl Pei

Taking on Apple with Nothing CEO Carl Pei

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 Alex and Ellis recap the first month of the show and chat about the future of AI apps and ChatGPT allowing erotica later this year. They’re then joined by Nothing CEO Carl Pei to discuss building a new kind of smartphone company, competing with Apple, Gen Z, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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