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Swurl Radio

Swurl Radio

By: Ayka Williams Eric Williams
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Welcome to the Swurl community, find us at swurl.io (https://swurl.io/). This is the podcast where real people come together to share, connect, and just talk.


Swurl Radio is hosted by Eric and Ayka Williams. Each episode we interview a tech or creative leader and get into the real story. The pivot after failure. The decision nobody understood. The years of figuring it out that didn't make it to LinkedIn.


We focus on backstory, failures, and process. We ask about childhood, culture, identity, and the hard truths that shaped how our guests build and create today. Every episode is different but the core stays the same: what do you do when it doesn't work out?


This is for international professionals in transition. People who feel like they're in the dumps and need a real human story. Not another course. Not another ten tips video. Just honest conversations with people who've been there.

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Episodes
  • The Hardest Pivot: Walking Away from Something That Works w/ Dan Mall | Ep 19

    The Hardest Pivot: Walking Away from Something That Works w/ Dan Mall | Ep 19
    Apr 18 2026

    Dan Mall built SuperFriendly into a successful agency, working with brands like Google and scaling a network of 700+ freelancers. Then he walked away, not because it failed, but because it no longer aligned with the life he wanted.
    This episode goes deeper than business. Dan opens up about leadership mistakes, letting people down, navigating tough decisions, identity, and what it really means to build and walk away from something meaningful.

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    1 hr and 16 mins
  • Identity Shifts, Failure, and Pricing Your Worth w/ Jonathan Stark| Ep 18

    Identity Shifts, Failure, and Pricing Your Worth w/ Jonathan Stark| Ep 18
    Apr 6 2026

    Jonathan Stark didn’t start as a pricing expert—he started as a musician chasing a dream, then pivoted into software, and eventually rebuilt his entire career around one idea: hourly billing is broken.
    In this episode, he shares the real journey behind that transformation—identity shifts, failed projects, career pivots, and the moment he realized businesses reward value, not effort. This is a conversation about unlearning, reinvention, and building a career that actually works.

    Support Swurl
    Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion.

    "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • From Building a Computer From Scratch to Scaling a Business w/ Maestro Stevens | Ep 17

    From Building a Computer From Scratch to Scaling a Business w/ Maestro Stevens | Ep 17
    Mar 27 2026

    Maestro Stevens, founder of Iconic Expressions, shares how he went from failed ventures to building a scalable business. This episode breaks down branding vs marketing, using AI to automate workflows, choosing the right clients, and the real sacrifices behind entrepreneurship.

    Support Swurl
    Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion.

    "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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    52 mins
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