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Success Isn’t About the Score — It’s About the Swing

Success Isn’t About the Score — It’s About the Swing

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In this week’s episode of Diversity Conversations LIVE, hosts Eric Ellis and Tommie Lewis take their microphones to the golf course for a fresh and unforgettable conversation about leadership, integrity, and life balance.

Drawing inspiration from a recent Cincinnati Bengals win and their own golf tournament, Eric and Tommie explore seven powerful lessons:

  • 🎯 Why success is not defined by your score
  • ⛳ The power of playing the long game
  • 💭 How to respect the course — in golf and in life
  • 👀 The importance of focusing on your own swing
  • 🙌 Celebrating good shots — yours and others’
  • 🌿 Recovering gracefully when you land in the rough
  • 🚶 And most of all, learning to enjoy the walk


Through humor, storytelling, and timeless insight, they remind us that life—like golf—is about integrity, humility, and character.

🎙️ About the Hosts
Eric Ellis | CEO, Integrity Development Corporation

Tommie Lewis | CEO, Make It Plain Consulting


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