In this episode, the guys take a breath and reflect on two big turning points in their lives — Steve running his first marathon, and JP stepping into a new relationship. What starts as a casual catch-up unfolds into a deeper conversation about showing up for yourself, embracing discomfort, and learning how to open your heart again.

Steve shares the highs and lows of race day: the nerves at the start line, the mental walls at mile 20, and the quiet pride that comes from finishing something that once felt impossible. Meanwhile, JP talks about the vulnerability and excitement of being in a new romantic relationship, learning to let go of old patterns, and what it means to build something real while still figuring yourself out.

Together, they explore how discipline, patience, and presence are universal — whether you’re chasing a finish line or opening up to someone new. It’s an honest, grounded reminder that growth doesn’t always look the way you expect, but it’s always worth it when you keep showing up.

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