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Startups For the Rest of Us

Startups For the Rest of Us

By: Rob Walling
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The original podcast for bootstrapped and mostly bootstrapped startups, this show follow the stories of founders as they start, acquire, and grow SaaS companies. Hear when they fail, struggle, succeed, and take you with them through the tumultuous life of a SaaS founder. If you like Mixergy, This Week in Startups, or SaaStr, you’ll enjoy Startup for the Rest of Us.© 2025 Startups For the Rest of Us Economics Leadership Management Management & Leadership Marketing Marketing & Sales
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  • Episode 830 | Breaking Through Plateaus, Zero-Click Marketing, and More from MicroConf 2026 (with Derrick Reimer)
    Apr 28 2026

    What were the highlights and takeaways from MicroConf?

    In this episode, Rob Walling and Derrick Reimer recap MicroConf US 2026 in Portland, Oregon. They break down the best talks from the event, including Jason Cohen on breaking through growth plateaus, Amanda Natividad on Zero-Click Marketing and broken attribution, Rob's framework for six ways to implement AI in SaaS, and Craig Hewitt's all-in take on AI adoption. Plus, they cover excursions, the hallway track, and why the MicroConf community keeps pulling founders up.

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    Topics we cover:
    • (2:14) – MicroConf 2026 attendee caliber and mix
    • (5:07) – Rebuilding MicroConf post-COVID
    • (8:51) – Jason Cohen on breaking growth ceilings
    • (12:48) – Amanda Natividad on Zero-Click Marketing
    • (19:30) – Excursions, arcades, and the hallway track
    • (22:01) – Rob's six ways to implement AI in SaaS
    • (27:27) – Gia Laudi on Jobs To Be Done as your GTM moat
    • (29:00) – Craig Hewitt's "AI Doomer" talk
    • (33:41) – MicroConf Europe in Iceland
    Links from the show:
    • MicroConf Europe┃Reykjavik, Iceland · Sept 21–23, 2026
    • MicroConf Connect
    • TinySeed SaaS Institute
    • Jason Cohen's "Designing the Ideal Bootstrapped Business with Jason Cohen"
    • Amanda Natividad | LinkedIn
    • SparkToro
    • Gia (Georgiana) Laudi | LinkedIn
    • Formspree
    • Rob Walling on YouTube
    • Craig Hewitt | LinkedIn
    • SavvyCal (Derrick Reimer)
    • Derrick Reimer | LinkedIn

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you'd like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We'd love to hear from you!

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    36 mins
  • Episode 829 | AI is Bad at Product, Top 5 Startup Success Factors, and the Beastie Boys (A Rob Solo Adventure)
    Apr 21 2026

    Can AI really handle product decisions for your SaaS?

    In this solo adventure, Rob Walling revisits the core four SaaS skills and breaks down what AI can and cannot do across Development, Sales, Marketing, and Product. He also reframes Bill Gross's top five startup success factors for bootstrappers, walks through a hilariously bad UX decision by a local parking app, and closes with a surprisingly insightful Beastie Boys anecdote about shipping creative work into the world.

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    Topics we cover:
    • (5:48) – AI and the Core Four SaaS skills
    • (7:03) – Why AI falls short with sales and marketing
    • (8:45) – The editorial eye AI still lacks
    • (10:14) – Why AI is worst at product
    • (13:41) – Bill Gross's top five startup success factors
    • (19:48) – A parking app's terrible UX decisions
    • (24:24) – The Beastie Boys and lessons on shipping
    Links from the show:
    • TinySeed | SaaS Institute
    • Ep. 817 | Bootstrapping in the Age of AI with Jason Cohen
    • Rob Walling YouTube
    • Rob Walling Newsletter
    • Bill Gross’s Ted Talk on Startup Success Factors
    • The Beastie Boys on Conan O’Brian’s Podcast

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you'd like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We'd love to hear from you!

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    31 mins
  • Episode 828 | Am I Building a SaaS?, Serving Both B2C and B2B, Pricing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)
    Apr 14 2026

    Is your product actually a SaaS?

    In this episode, Rob Walling tackles listener questions about what really qualifies as SaaS (and where he disagrees with ChatGPT), how to serve both solopreneurs and enterprise customers with a dual funnel strategy, layering a B2B offering on top of a B2C product, pricing a mission-driven app without gatekeeping access, and the impact of healthcare costs on startup runway.

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    Topics we cover:
    • (3:09) – What qualifies as a SaaS business?
    • (5:15) – Why Netflix and Spotify are not SaaS
    • (8:11) – Where Rob disagrees with ChatGPT on SaaS
    • (12:21) – Serving solopreneurs and enterprise simultaneously
    • (15:13) – The power of the dual funnel strategy
    • (17:02) – Navigating the enterprise sales process
    • (22:20) – Layering B2B features onto a B2C product
    • (28:52) – Pricing a mission-driven job search app
    • (35:57) – Healthcare costs and startup runway in the US
    Links from the show:
    • MicroConf Masterminds – Applications close April 17th
    • MicroConf’s Masterminds Guide
    • Newscatcher
    • HelpSpot
    • TinySeed
    • Rob Walling (@robwalling) | X

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you'd like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We'd love to hear from you!

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    41 mins
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