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Sound Systems

Sound Systems

By: Max Bernstein
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Unlock the secrets to building a thriving, streamlined music business on Sound Systems, hosted by Max Bernstein, Founder of Relationl. Max is on a mission: to help the music industry move beyond spreadsheets and disconnected tools. Having founded a record label, festival, and tech platform himself, Max now designs custom, automated operating systems for music companies featured in Billboard and Rolling Stone. Every episode dives into the day-to-day challenges of music management and operations. Max interviews music moguls and industry executives who are leveraging relational databases and workflow automation to achieve clarity, control, and massive scale. If you're ready to stop wading through manual effort and start running your business with maximum efficiency and transparency, Sound Systems delivers the blueprint.Copyright 2026 Max Bernstein Music
Episodes
  • Your Lost Music Royalties with Jamie Hart
    Feb 26 2026

    In this episode, host Max Bernstein sits down with Jamie Dee Hart founder of Hart & Songs, a music rights management expert who helps artists, writers, and management teams clean up registrations and collect the royalties they’re owed. Jamie breaks down the real-world consequences of skipping “boring admin” from unclaimed royalties that can expire after a limited retroactive window to situations where someone else claims your work in YouTube Content ID.

    Together, they walk through what actually needs to happen once a song is finished and released, collecting writer info and IPI numbers, locking in splits, registering songs with PROs and the MLC, setting up YouTube publishing monetization, and making sure sound recording royalties like SoundExchange aren’t missed. They also discuss how independent artists and managers can keep their catalog clean, avoid royalty delays, and be better positioned when opportunities and deals come along.

    Key Takeaways:

    1. Unregistered songs can forfeit past royalties after a limited retroactive window
    2. Split discrepancies can pause payouts until all parties agree to amendments
    3. Pub admins help collect key royalties you can’t easily collect yourself (incl. YouTube publishing-side)
    4. Proper metadata (IPI, publisher info, ISRC) is essential for tracking and matching
    5. Manager checklist: PRO + pub admin + YouTube/Content ID coverage + SoundExchange performer setup


    Key Timestamps:

    00:00:00 - Jamie’s background in rights management

    00:04:57 - What artists lose when they don’t register

    00:07:10 - The retroactive window (why older streams can be gone)

    00:10:54 - Why a publishing admin is critical

    00:17:47 - Top-to-bottom workflow: splits, PRO, admin, ISRC

    00:21:06 - How split disputes delay royalties

    00:32:35 - YouTube, Music Reports/Peloton, SoundExchange, neighboring rights

    58:08:07 - Jamie’s 3-month cleanup + training approach

    01:01:00 - notes.fm and the “catalog health check” idea


    Follow our guest, Jamie Dee Hart:

    1. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiedhart/
    2. Hart & Songs LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hart-and-songs/
    3. Hart & Songs Website: https://www.hartandsongs.com/
    4. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamiedeehart/?hl=en


    Follow the Host Max Bernstein:

    1. LinkedIn:
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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • The One Person Record Company with Alexander Ciccimarro
    Feb 12 2026

    In this episode, host Max Bernstein welcomes Alexander Ciccimarro, Vice President of Marketing at RCA Records, to talk about the evolution of music marketing, artist branding, and the operational systems powering today’s record labels. From orchestrating viral blog-era moments to championing AI-driven label workflows, Alexander unpacks how he navigated a career from mixtape culture to music executive leadership.

    Together, they explore the critical role of systems design in the modern music business, the future of small, agile record labels, and why the labels of tomorrow will be built on a single source of truth. This episode is essential for marketers, artists, and operators rethinking how the industry can scale human creativity through smart infrastructure.

    Key Takeaways:

    1. How early message boards and viral rap moments launched Alexander into music marketing
    2. The story behind launching Cardi B’s “Bodak Yellow” and other early Atlantic Records wins
    3. Why “Same Plate” focused on fair, profit-sharing deals and the ethos of “Everyone Eats”
    4. How AI, no-code tools, and centralized systems are transforming label operations
    5. Why the future of music will be run by “rainmakers” empowered by lean teams and AI

    Key Timestamps:

    00:00 - Introduction to Alexander Ciccimarro

    04:40 - Hustling between NYC and ATL with Two-9 and Fatman Key

    13:10 - Launching Same Plate with a mission-driven label model

    19:00 - Fair deal structures and building the “Everyone Eats” ethos

    27:00 - Evolving personal branding and leadership in the digital age

    34:00 - Vision for the future: systems over chaos in label operations

    41:40 - Why AI won’t replace people, but systems will empower them

    47:00 - The single source of truth as the foundation of future labels

    49:00 - Final thoughts on systems, training, and the human-AI bridge


    Follow our guest, Alexander Ciccimarro:

    1. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexander-ciccimarro-4185ba80/
    2. RCA Records LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rca-records/
    3. RCA Records Website: https://www.rcarecords.com/


    Follow the Host Max Bernstein:

    1. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mberns01/
    2. X:
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    49 mins
  • How The GRAMMYS Work with Dr. Chelsey Green
    Jan 29 2026

    In this episode, host Max Bernstein sits down with Dr. Chelsey Green, a genre-crossing violinist, educator, and now Chair of the Board of Trustees at the Recording Academy. Known for her work as a classical and contemporary musician, Dr. Chelsey shares how a spontaneous open-mic performance led her down a transformative path, from performing with a touring R&B band to shaping the future of the music industry.

    This episode provides an inside look at what the Recording Academy does beyond the Grammy Awards, encompassing music education, professional development, advocacy, and global outreach. Dr. Chelsey also examines the Academy's stance on AI in music, the impact of peer-voted recognition, and why this moment is critical for community building and connectivity in the industry.

    Key Takeaways:

    1. How Chelsey Green transitioned from classical violinist to Chair of the Recording Academy Board
    2. What the Recording Academy really does beyond the Grammy Awards
    3. How independent artists can submit music and earn nominations
    4. Why ethical AI and global connection are central to the Academy’s future vision
    5. How creators and industry executives alike can plug into their local Recording Academy chapters

    Key Timestamps:

    00:00 – Introduction to Dr. Chelsey Green

    02:37 – From open mic surprise to R&B bandleader

    05:21 – The Recording Academy’s mission beyond the Grammys

    10:15 – How creators can join and participate

    15:19 – How Chelsey's Grammy perspective has evolved

    19:12 – Demystifying the Grammy voting process

    22:07 – Grammy wins and the independent artist career boost

    30:36 – The potential and pitfalls of AI in music

    34:06 – Final thoughts for industry leaders and creators


    Follow our guest, Dr. Chelsey Green:

    1. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drchelseygreen/
    2. Website: https://www.chelseygreen.com/, https://www.recordingacademy.com/, https://www.grammy.com
    3. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drchelseygreen/
    4. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenProjectTGP/


    Follow the Host Max Bernstein:

    1. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mberns01/
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    37 mins
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