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Some Work, All Play

Some Work, All Play

By: David Roche and Megan Roche
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Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!David Roche and Megan Roche Running & Jogging
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  • 278. The High-Carb Life, The Best Performances (of all time?) at World Champs, Vitamin D Intake Study, Strava’s IPO, and Short-Term Heat Acclimation!
    Sep 30 2025

    Our watches gave us some harsh (but necessary) feedback before this amazing episode! The main science topics were quick hitter studies on massive one-time Vitamin D intake, short-term heat acclimation protocols, and sodium bicarb. If you combine all of the protocols at once, that’s what we call a PARTY.

    We also talked about the World Trail Champs, which saw the highest-scored performances of all time. Our discussion included a hot take on course choices that is probably wrong and please don’t tell anyone we said it.

    And this one was full of great topics! Other topics: the total domination of the sleepwithmegan25 code, training readiness scores in a time of teething, our reactions to comments on the documentary “Nothing to Lose,” why Nomio is the supplement sweeping Europe, the improbable win at the women’s cycling World Champs, and Strava’s IPO announcement, plus a Q+A on the high-carb life, the mountain legs strength routine, long-term heat training, time equivalents for cross training, training principles for less fast runners, and self-talk.

    Yes, David brutally mangled a 50 Cent reference, proceeding to call back the mistaken reference multiple times. To be fair, David has never been in da club in his whole life. But he has been in da candy shop.

    We love you all! HUZZAH!

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    1 hr and 33 mins
  • Leadville 100 Documentary “Nothing To Lose” Commentary, Hot Takes, and Behind The Scenes!
    Sep 25 2025

    The documentary “Nothing To Lose” is out today, telling the behind-the-scenes story of the 2025 Leadville 100! And we thought it was a great time to try something new. In this episode, we do a rewatch, providing commentary and hot takes throughout.

    You can listen to this episode as a standalone good-vibes celebration. OR, you can watch the documentary for a second time with this episode playing through your headphones like an old-school DVD commentary. It’s a celebration, and who are we to tell you how to party?

    Director Cody Bare created such a cool work of art. We are so proud of him and wanted to fully uplift his work. That ended up including a lot of talk about butts and other private parts. Cody would appreciate it. And trust us, he has seen it all.

    Thank you all so much for being here for the journey. “Nothing To Lose” tells the story of hitting rock bottom as an athlete, and what might be waiting on the other side. It’s an hour of lows and highs, humor and tears, and some of the most beautiful trail shots we have ever seen.

    None of it would have been possible without you. We love you all!

    The rewatch starts at 3:22. The butt appears at 20:27.

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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • 277. New Science on Fatigue Resistance, Leadville 100 Documentary, Our Fears About The Enhanced Games, A Cross Training Guide, and Timing of Strides!
    Sep 23 2025

    We had such a blast recording this great episode! The main science topic was a new study on improving fatigue resistance, which performance-matched athletes with different training approaches to see what led to better outcomes.

    The conclusion is a direct prescription for athletes looking to have better endurance. Being who we are, we throw some scientific turds in the study’s punch bowl.

    We also talked about the new Leadville documentary “Nothing to Lose,” which is coming out on Thursday. Yes, there was a butt shot at mile 23. But most importantly, Director Cody Bare created a beautiful film about what happens after an athlete hits rock bottom. In other words: yes, there is emotional butt too.

    And this one was full of the best topics! Other topics: Megan’s recovery lessons after the 50 miler, blood volume responses, why we love the new product “Dream Shot” so much (plus a 25% discount code), why we are so horrified by champion sprinter Fred Kerley joining the Enhanced Games, Harry Styles running an amazing sub-3 hour marathon, plus questions on post-race blues, headlamps, cross training, relationships, ethical dilemmas with bicarb responders v. non-responders, timing of strides, overcoming plateaus, rest days, and mid-run carbs for low volume training.

    May all of the ways you are weird be uplifted, even when they involve sneezing and toilets for some reason (that will make sense after you listen...maybe). We love you all! HUZZAH!

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    1 hr and 38 mins
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