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Side by Side

Side by Side

By: University of Minnesota Extension
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Merriam-Webster’s dictionary defines “side by side” as the state “of existing beside one another” and “of being in the same place, time, or circumstance." What does it mean for rural and urban communities to live side by side? Join University of Minnesota Extension staff as we explore the interdependent relationship of rural and urban spaces and why this necessary and complex relationship matters.© 2025 Regents of the University of Minnesota Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Bonus Episode: Family Pod
    Mar 12 2025

    In this special bonus episode, Ellen takes a break from working on season two to chat with her siblings, Megan and Keith, about their experiences growing up in rural Montana and North Dakota and their journey to urban spaces. Megan, Ellen, and Keith reminisce about their unique childhood from being the only girl in fifth grade to walking home from school with the cows and loving the wide open lands. They ponder why they all ended up in cities, the stereotypes and misconceptions people have about both rural and urban spaces, and how community building looks very similar no matter where you live.

    Little Megan, Ellen, and Keith

    Megan, Ellen, and Keith's "backyard" growing up

    Megan, Ellen, and Keith's "driveway" growing up

    Questions, comments, want to get in touch? Email us at sidebyside@umn.edu or share your feedback by completing a quick survey: https://z.umn.edu/9wtp. We share your feedback with funders and stakeholders about the value of this podcast and how you engage with the insights and information.

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    19 mins
  • Episode 11: John Noltner challenges stereotypes and fosters dialogue by helping communities tell their stories
    Nov 4 2024

    In the final episode of Side by Side's first season, Ellen talks with photographer John Noltner, founder of ‘A Peace of My Mind,’ a storytelling project that captures personal stories and portraits to foster dialogue across divides. John discusses the human tendency to avoid challenging preconceived notions and how storytelling deepens our understanding of each other and breaks down stereotypes. John reflects on his experiences from Skid Row in Los Angeles to the deep South of Mississippi and border towns in Texas, highlighting the interconnectedness of rural, urban, and suburban spaces and the immense pride that individuals have for their communities.

    Episode Highlights:
    03:44 John's Background and Origins of "A Peace of My Mind"

    07:51 The Impact of Feeling Seen

    10:50 Common Ground in Rural and Urban Communities

    18:46 The Danger of a Single Story

    20:40 Surprising Stories from Mississippi and LA

    27:45 Sharing Stories and Creating Impact


    More Information:
    A Peace of My Mind, https://apeaceofmymind.org/


    Stories from New York Mills, MN:

    https://apeaceofmymind.org/2023/12/20/belonging-2-0/


    Stories from skid row in Los Angeles, CA, https://apeaceofmymind.org/2021/07/06/vincent-turner/


    Stories from Oxford, MI, https://apeaceofmymind.org/2023/04/18/duncan-gray/


    Questions, comments, want to get in touch? Email us at sidebyside@umn.edu or share your feedback by completing a quick survey: https://z.umn.edu/9wtp. We share your feedback with funders and stakeholders about the value of this podcast and how you engage with the insights and information.

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    37 mins
  • Episode 10: Brigid Tuck explores what would happen if Minnesota's rural economy disappeared
    Oct 30 2024

    In this episode, Ellen welcomes colleague Brigid Tuck, an economist at the University of Minnesota Extension, who sheds light on a 2011 study demonstrating economic interdependence between rural and urban areas in Minnesota. Conducted in collaboration with Minnesota Rural Partners, the study highlights how economic changes in either region can significantly impact the other, particularly in the agribusiness and manufacturing sectors. Brigid describes how Minnesota's urban areas benefit economically from improved prosperity among its rural neighbors and vice versa. Additionally, the discussion covers the ever-evolving definitions of 'rural and 'urban' that affect research methodologies and policy decisions. Brigid also shares her insights into what people get wrong about rural and urban communities in Minnesota.

    Episode Highlights:

    05:04 Key Findings from An Economic Rural-Urban Interdependence Study

    11:22 Defining Rural and Urban Areas

    18:09 Common Misconceptions About Rural and Urban Areas

    More Information:
    Brigid Tuck Bio, https://experts.umn.edu/en/persons/brigid-a-tuck

    Urban vs. rural? More like urban and rural together, study says | UMN Extension, https://extension.umn.edu/vital-connections/urban-vs-rural-more-urban-and-rural-together-study-says

    Greater Minnesota and Twin Cities 7-County Metro Area Jobs by Industry, 2024, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wEhyR3CMPD7E91dYdNzj9W_8ky00yL4j/view?usp=drive_link


    Questions, comments, want to get in touch? Email us at sidebyside@umn.edu or share your feedback by completing a quick survey-
    https://z.umn.edu/9wtp. We share your feedback with funders and stakeholders about the value of this podcast and how you engage with the insights and information.

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    21 mins

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