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She Counts

She Counts

By: Questian Telka EA & Nancy McClelland CPA
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 She Counts brings together respected educators Nancy McClelland, CPA, and Questian Telka, EA, for candid conversations about what it’s really like to be a woman in accounting. Whether you’re in corporate, at a firm, or running your own show, this podcast offers a space to feel seen, heard, and understood. From taboo topics to everyday challenges, She Counts is more than a podcast—it’s a community where women in accounting, tax, and bookkeeping can come together and get real.© 2026 Questian Telka, EA & Nancy McClelland, CPA Career Success Economics
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  • LIVE from Women Who Count, Part Two

    LIVE from Women Who Count, Part Two
    Jan 14 2026
    Recorded live at AFWA’s Women Who Count Conference, Questian and Nancy are joined by employment attorney Kami Hoskins and HR leader Julie Thiel for an unflinching conversation about sexual harassment in accounting. From boundary-crossing “jokes” and unwanted physical contact to explicit quid pro quo threats, this panel breaks down how harassment actually shows up at work… and why it’s so often minimized, misread, or missed entirely in the moment. They pull back the curtain on what really happens when HR gets involved, why silence is often mistaken for professionalism, and how power dynamics shape who is believed and who is protected. This is Part Two of a two-part live recording examining how workplace culture enables harm—and what it takes to change it.SponsorsForwardly - https://www.forwardly.com/shecountsRelay- https://relayfi.com/shecountsClient Hub - https://www.clienthub.app/lp/shecounts(00:00) - Introduction and Overview(01:32) - Addressing Harassment Beyond the Workplace(02:32) - Handling Client Harassment(03:39) - Building HR Resources for Small Firms(04:26) - The Role of Supervisors in Reporting(06:04) - Legal Recourse and External Resources(08:37) - Strategies for Employees to Resist Harassment(21:35) - Creating a Culture of Accountability and Respect(30:20) - Using Data to Assess Organizational Culture(31:31) - Audience Q&A Begins(33:42) - The Importance of Tone from the Top(36:27) - Handling Sensitive Situations in Volunteer Organizations(39:34) - Addressing Sexual Harassment in the Workplace(49:53) - Rapid Fire Q&A(53:09) - Conclusion and Final ThoughtsResourcesSlide Deck - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1EVkM2HbslFIqWXhDHWxkgYpmtk_0ZG0lJ9yE-DgdNdw/Live Audience’s Mentimeter Word Cloud - https://photos.app.goo.gl/jh2d42QmRRZwKL9R7AFWA Women Who Count Conference - https://www.afwa.org/women-who-count/Kami Hoskins - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kami-hoskins-132aaa2a/ - creates and implements effective solutions for employers navigating complex labor and employment law issues, providing meticulous defense in state and federal courts as well as before the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, National Labor Relations Board, and the Arizona Attorney General’s Office.She advises employers on employment policies and handbooks, performance management, accommodations, reductions in force, and workplace investigations. She negotiates and drafts employment-related agreements, including non-competition, non-solicitation, and confidentiality agreements. She also has extensive experience leading employment practices trainings for attorneys, HR professionals, and managers.In addition to her labor and employment practice, Kami advises businesses on sustainability and ESG strategies, including sustainability disclosures under relevant regulatory frameworks, greenhouse gas goal setting, DEI programs, and social impact programs. With a strong capacity for high-stakes, people-centered work and a decisive, detail-oriented approach to problem-solving, Kami’s dynamic practice also includes commercial litigation and business reorganization matters.Kami has been a volunteer with the Boys & Girls Clubs of the Valley since 2012 and a member of the Executive Committee since 2019. On Saturday mornings, you can find Kami volunteering with the Arizona Humane Society.Julie Thiel - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliemthiel/ - helps professional services firms transform high-turnover environments into talent magnets. With 30+ years in HR leadership, Julie implements her proven, practical retention framework to reduce costly turnover in accounting, engineering, and IT organizations. She combines expertise in emotional intelligence and retention strategy to deliver practical solutions that leaders can implement immediately. Julie has presented at APWA Minnesota, Dakota County Chamber of Commerce, School Nutrition Association, and the University of Minnesota Carlson School of Business. Her audiences praise her relatable style and actionable insights that transform retention challenges into strategic advantages.Equal Employment Opportunity Commission - https://www.eeoc.gov/data/sexual-harassment-our-nations-workplacesWomen in the Workplace 2024 - https://leanin.org/women-in-the-workplaceSPONSORS: [Forwardly, Relay, Client Hub] Join Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcasthttps://www.earmark.app/This podcast is a production of Earmark Media
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    56 mins
  • LIVE from Women Who Count, Part One

    LIVE from Women Who Count, Part One
    Dec 31 2025
    Recorded live at AFWA’s Women Who Count Conference, Questian and Nancy are joined by employment attorney Kami Hoskins and HR leader Julie Thiel for an unflinching conversation about sexual harassment in accounting. From boundary-crossing “jokes” and unwanted physical contact to explicit quid pro quo threats, this panel breaks down how harassment actually shows up at work… and why it’s so often minimized, misread, or missed entirely in the moment. They pull back the curtain on what really happens when HR gets involved, why silence is often mistaken for professionalism, and how power dynamics shape who is believed and who is protected. This is Part One of a two-part live recording examining how workplace culture enables harm—and what it takes to change it.SponsorsForwardly - https://www.forwardly.com/shecountsRelay- https://relayfi.com/shecountsClient Hub - https://www.clienthub.app/lp/shecounts(00:00) - Introduction and Overview(01:20) - Live Recording at Women Who Count Conference(02:47) - Meet the Experts: Kami Hoskins and Julie Thiel(04:26) - Trigger Warnings and Disclaimers(06:12) - Poll Results and Audience Reactions(09:17) - Personal Stories of Harassment(20:57) - Types of Sexual Harassment(27:05) - Addressing Discomfort in the Workplace(27:20) - The HR Investigation Process(32:47) - Handling Unwelcome Behavior(34:34) - The Role of HR in Resolving Issues(36:33) - Understanding Sexual Harassment Statistics(39:03) - Retaliation Concerns and Protections(43:50) - The Importance of Employer Policies(47:58) - HR's Dual Role: Protecting Company and Employees(52:47) - The Costs of Sexual Harassment Allegations(54:13) - Conclusion and Next StepsResourcesSlide Deck - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1EVkM2HbslFIqWXhDHWxkgYpmtk_0ZG0lJ9yE-DgdNdw/editAFWA Women Who Count Conference - https://www.afwa.org/women-who-count/Kami Hoskins - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kami-hoskins-132aaa2a/ - creates and implements effective solutions for employers navigating complex labor and employment law issues, providing meticulous defense in state and federal courts as well as before the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, National Labor Relations Board, and the Arizona Attorney General’s Office.She advises employers on employment policies and handbooks, performance management, accommodations, reductions in force, and workplace investigations. She negotiates and drafts employment-related agreements, including non-competition, non-solicitation, and confidentiality agreements. She also has extensive experience leading employment practices trainings for attorneys, HR professionals, and managers.In addition to her labor and employment practice, Kami advises businesses on sustainability and ESG strategies, including sustainability disclosures under relevant regulatory frameworks, greenhouse gas goal setting, DEI programs, and social impact programs. With a strong capacity for high-stakes, people-centered work and a decisive, detail-oriented approach to problem-solving, Kami’s dynamic practice also includes commercial litigation and business reorganization matters.Kami has been a volunteer with the Boys & Girls Clubs of the Valley since 2012 and a member of the Executive Committee since 2019. On Saturday mornings, you can find Kami volunteering with the Arizona Humane Society.Julie Thiel - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliemthiel/ - helps professional services firms transform high-turnover environments into talent magnets. With 30+ years in HR leadership, Julie implements her proven, practical retention framework to reduce costly turnover in accounting, engineering, and IT organizations. She combines expertise in emotional intelligence and retention strategy to deliver practical solutions that leaders can implement immediately. Julie has presented at APWA Minnesota, Dakota County Chamber of Commerce, School Nutrition Association, and the University of Minnesota Carlson School of Business. Her audiences praise her relatable style and actionable insights that transform retention challenges into strategic advantages.Equal Employment Opportunity Commission - https://www.eeoc.gov/data/sexual-harassment-our-nations-workplacesWomen in the Workplace 2024 - https://leanin.org/women-in-the-workplaceSPONSORS: [Forwardly, Relay, Client Hub] Join Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcasthttps://www.earmark.app/This podcast is a production of Earmark Media
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    56 mins
  • ADHD: Chaos With a Side of Brilliance

    ADHD: Chaos With a Side of Brilliance
    Dec 17 2025
    Two accountants with ADHD (and one who’s got lots of questions) get real about what it's like when your brain won't filter information, when 30 minutes turns into either 3 hours or 3 minutes, and when opening your email derails your entire day. Jina Etienne joins Questian and Nancy to discuss early- vs later-in-life diagnosis; the exhaustion of masking symptoms for decades; the superpowers inherent in ADHD; and why women in accounting are finally putting words to experiences they've had their whole lives. If you’ve wondered about ADHD in accounting… yet all your resources are male, this is the episode for you.SponsorsForwardly - https://www.forwardly.com/shecountsRelay- https://relayfi.com/shecountsClient Hub - https://www.clienthub.app/lp/shecounts(00:00) - Introduction and Episode Overview (00:51) - Meet Our Guest: Jina Etienne (05:25) - Personal Stories of ADHD Diagnosis (08:15) - Understanding ADHD in Women (11:27) - Challenges and Misconceptions (19:42) - Masking Behaviors and Functional Freeze (30:59) - The Impact of Late Diagnosis (37:38) - Navigating Social Cues (38:42) - Communication Styles with My Husband (44:59) - Understanding Time Blindness (48:36) - Managing ADHD with Tools and Strategies (59:32) - The Power of Hyperfocus (01:03:12) - Embracing ADHD Superpowers (01:05:15) - Conclusion and Final ThoughtsResourcesJina Etienne on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/etiennejina/“Speaking the Unspoken” by Jina Etienne - https://www.etienneconsulting.com/post/speaking-the-unspokenThe Distracted Elephant podcast by Jina Etienne & Ipalla Cooke - https://www.distractedelephant.com Jina’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@etienneconsulting Jina’s personal blog: Fearlessly Me - https://www.fearlessly-me.com “ADHD: Beyond the Stereotypes in the Workplace” by Jina Etienne - https://report.woodard.com/articles/adhd-beyond-the-stereotypes-in-the-workplace-ophrwr “Understanding ADHD: Looking Past Stereotypes” by Jina Etienne - https://report.woodard.com/articles/understanding-adhd-looking-past-stereotypes-ophrwrHelpful links:CDC - How is ADHD Diagnosed (https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/diagnosis.html)Adult ADHD Assessment and Diagnosis (https://www.aafp.org/family-physician/patient-care/prevention-wellness/emotional-wellbeing/adhd-toolkit/assessment-and-diagnosis.htmlTesting for ADHD: How ADHD Is Diagnosed (https://www.verywellmind.com/diagnosis-of-adhd-20584)Symptoms of Adult ADHD https://www.healthline.com/health/adhd/adult-adhdMore and more women being diagnosed with ADHD, study findshttps://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/more-and-more-women-being-diagnosed-with-adhd-new-study-finds/Time Blindness in ADHD https://www.verywellmind.com/causes-and-symptoms-of-time-blindness-in-adhd-5216523 The Creativity of ADHD https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-creativity-of-adhd/“ADHD Impairment Peaks in Menopause, According to ADDitude Reader Survey” https://www.additudemag.com/menopause-symptoms-adhd-survey/ “This Is How Your ADHD Can Affect You During Menopause” https://drbrighten.com/adhd-and-menopause Links from studies and articles cited in the episode:Adult ADHD and comorbid anxiety and depressive disorders: a review of etiology and treatment - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12179154/The female side of pharmacotherapy for ADHD: A systematic literature review - https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0239257PubMed, Prevalence of Undiagnosed ADHD in Adults - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39830803/“Focus & Flow: The ADHD Accountant’s Survival Guide” (CPA Practice Advisor, 2024) - https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2024/09/09/working-with-adhd-a-toolkit-for-accountants/110133/“Resources and Strategies Are Available to Accountants with ADHD” (NYSSCPA / Accounting Today) - https://nysscpa.org/article-content/resources-and-strategies-are-available-to-accountants-with-adhd-091224SPONSORS: [Forwardly, Relay, Client Hub] Join Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666Earn CPE for Listening to This Podcasthttps://www.earmark.app/This podcast is a production of Earmark Media
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    1 hr and 11 mins
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