Happy Thanksgiving everyone! While the holiday season is all about love and joy it can also bring family tension and unwanted conversations. Experts suggest there is a communication tool that we can all learn to use, to help navigate and avoid emotional outbursts. “Gray rocking” begins by imagining you’re a dull gray rock… keeping a blank expression and a calm neutral tone. Aunt Debbie will be so bored talking to you, she’ll quickly move on to her next victim. However, there is one person you should NEVER try this method on, ever.

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Should you date someone in the friend group?

DeAnna gives all the details to Kathy on why she’s feeling conflicted when it comes to a prospective date.

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Kathy and DeAnna are taking over and letting us hear their girl chat! Kathy is spilling all the disastrous details of a long-distance date that crashed and burned, and DeAnna is celebrating a birthday as a single divorcee!

What has Kathy learned from this recent dating situation gone wrong, and does DeAnna have a new man in her life??

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Usha Vance was spotted out on official Second Lady duties without her wedding ring this week. Couple that, with the recent remarks from hubby J.D. saying he wished his wife would convert to Christianity to the controversial hug between Erika Kirk and J.D. Vance last month, and you’ve got divorce rumors circling the couple. Hear what Usha Vance said in response to all the negativity and why we liked it so much.

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After a number of nasty headlines regarding the Miss Universe Pageant, Amy and T.J. decided to record this episode while watching tonight’s pageant. This week, the latest scandal to hit the Miss Universe organization happened after two judges resigned, one of them claiming the pageant is rigged. This comes on the heels of a tragic fall by Miss Jamaica during an evening gown competition and a pageant director stepping down earlier this month after calling Miss Mexico dumb during a livestream.

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50-year-old Sophie Grégoire is a class act. She was baited on a podcast to explain how she’s remained so “cool” amid the now public romance between her soon-to-be ex-husband, former Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and pop star Katy Perry. Grégoire, who was married to Trudeau for 18 years and with whom she shares three children, gave some of the most thoughtful, empowering answers to how she is navigating the very public situation and there are lessons in her words for each and everyone one of us.

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North Carolina is one of 7 states that has an Alienation of Affection Law, which allows a spouse to sue a third party when they can prove they had a loving marriage until that third party maliciously seduced their spouse. The wronged party doesn’t even have to prove there was an extramarital sexual affair… it is solely about someone stealing a partner’s affection, that leads to the destruction of a marriage. Amy and T.J. go over the fascinating facts of this case and bring up one of the most famous examples of someone attempting to use the law against an American Idol alum.

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The grand finale of “The Golden Bachelor” may not have ended with an engagement, but it gave us gold in terms of personal and relationship lessons! Spoiler alert on this episode, if you still don’t know how it ends, finish watching before listening. From 60-year-old Cindy who left before the fantasy suite because she doesn’t “need to convince a man to love me” to 62-year-old Peg who went in with zero expectations and ultimately, came out on top, Amy and T.J. talk about if an engagement or marriage is necessary for commitment and just how important it ultimately is for a partner to feel secure.

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