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Science of Reading: The Podcast

Science of Reading: The Podcast

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Science of Reading: The Podcast will deliver the latest insights from researchers and practitioners in early reading. Via a conversational approach, each episode explores a timely topic related to the science of reading.

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  • The truth behind learning, with Nathaniel Swain, Ph.D.
    Jun 4 2025

    In this episode of Science of Reading: The Podcast, Susan Lambert is joined by Nathaniel Swain, Ph.D. He’s a teacher, instructional coach, and author of the recent book Harnessing the Science of Learning: Success Stories to Help Kickstart Your School Improvement. Emphasizing the science of learning as an ever-growing resource for updating instruction practices, he provides a comprehensive look at how knowledge powers learning, how to identify knowledge-rich curricula, how cognitive load affects learning, and how to understand several common learning misconceptions.

    Show notes:

    • Access free, high-quality resources at our brand-new companion professional learning page: http://amplify.com/science-of-reading/professional-learning
    • Connect with Nathaniel Swain, Ph.D.:
      • Website: nathanielswain.com
    • Resources:
      • Book: Harnessing the Science of Learning
      • Think Forward Educators
      • Deans for Impact
      • Listen: Chalk Dust
    • Join our community Facebook group: www.facebook.com/groups/scienceofreading
    • Connect with Susan Lambert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-lambert-edd-b1512761/

    Quotes:

    “The greatest thing about the science of learning is that it's never really gonna be finished. Much like the science of reading, it's constantly being updated and it's something that we should be constantly turning to.” –Nathaniel Swain, Ph.D.

    “When we have knowledge at our fingertips—or in this case, in our synapses—ready to be used, we can overcome all these limitations that cognitive load theory talks about.” –Nathaniel Swain, Ph.D.

    “We're kidding ourselves a little bit if we think that we can replace that rich content knowledge with generic skills and generic competencies.” –Nathaniel Swain, Ph.D.

    Episode timestamps*
    02:00 Introduction: Who is Nathaniel Swain?
    03:00 Science of learning book
    11:00 Knowledge powers all learning
    15:00 Addressing common learning myths
    18:00 Knowledge retrieval
    21:00 Misconception: Productive struggle
    22:00 Misconception: “Preparing students for the 21st century”
    26:00 Enriching schema
    29:00 Background knowledge and confirmation bias
    30:00 Knowledge rich curriculum
    32:00 Knowledge that is manageable and achievable
    37:00 Skills AND knowledge
    44:00 Chalk Dust podcast
    45:00 Final thoughts and advice
    *Timestamps are approximate, rounded to nearest minute


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    49 mins
  • Science of Reading Essentials: Writing
    May 21 2025

    In this special Science of Reading Essentials episode, Susan Lambert pulls from past episodes of the podcast to give you everything you need to know about science-based writing instruction. Experts include Steve Graham, Ed.D.; Young-Suk Grace Kim, Ed.D.; Natalie Wexler; and Judith Hochman, Ed.D. Listeners will walk away from this episode with a solid foundation for creating a classroom of confident and capable writers, and gain a better understanding of the connection between reading and writing, the role of handwriting and spelling, the power of sentences, and the importance of applying cognitive load theory to writing.

    Show notes:

    • Resources
      • Access the listening guide—and other free, high-quality resources—at our brand new professional learning page: http://amplify.com/science-of-reading/professional-learning
    • Join our community Facebook group: www.facebook.com/groups/scienceofreading

    Quotes:

    “This is not learned by osmosis. And it's not learned by vague feedback, like, ‘make it better’ or ‘add more details.’ You've got to be very granular.” —Judith Hochman, Ed.D.

    "What we see with exceptional teachers is they have their kids write." —Steve Graham, Ed.D.

    “The Science of Reading encapsulates decades of research about both reading and writing—because if writing was never invented, we would not have to teach kids how to read.” —Susan Lambert


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    36 mins
  • A guide to integrating knowledge building into your classroom, with Jackie Relyea, Ph.D.
    May 7 2025

    In this special episode of Science of Reading: The Podcast, Susan Lambert is joined by Jackie Relyea, Ph.D., Assistant Professor of Literacy Education at North Carolina State University, who’ll give you a comprehensive guide to integrating background knowledge into your teaching as, you create a content-rich classroom. Jackie offers insights on why time-tested classroom staples such as read-alouds and word walls are effective tools for building background knowledge … and how to make them even better. She also digs into why vocabulary is just one facet of conceptual knowledge and what the research says about background knowledge for multilingual learners.

    Show notes:

    • Connect with Jackie Eunjung Relyea, Ph.D:
      • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackie-e-relyea-82953242/
      • NC State University: https://ced.ncsu.edu/people/jrelyea/
    • Resources
      • The CLICK Lab
      • Effects of Tier 1 Content Literacy Intervention on Early-Grade English Learners’ Reading and Writing.
      • Transactional Development of Science and Mathematics Knowledge and Reading Proficiency for Multilingual Students Across Languages of Instruction
      • Listen: The joy of reading aloud, with Molly Ness
      • Listen: Supporting multilingual/English learners with the Science of Reading
    • Join our community Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/scienceofreading
    • Connect with Susan Lambert: www.linkedin.com/in/susan-lambert-ed-d-b1512761/

    Quotes:

    “Literacy for my students meant more than just reading and writing; it was about access, access to the world, and access to knowledge and opportunities, and even independence—finding their voices.” –Jackie Eunjung Relyea, Ph.D.

    “You can think of a schema like… mental maps or the frameworks that help us store and organize new information and knowledge. The richer and the more detailed your schema about a particular topic, the easier it is to understand and remember new information about it.” –Jackie Eunjung Relyea, Ph.D.

    “Vocabulary oftentimes is the tip of the iceberg of the whole: the conceptual knowledge. It's not a simple definition of the single word; it's really conceptual knowledge and understanding that is represented by the word.” –Jackie Eunjung Relyea, Ph.D.

    Episode timestamps*
    02:00 Introduction: Who is Dr. Jackie Relyea?
    10:00 Importance of knowledge building
    14:00 Reciprocal relationship between reading and knowledge building
    18:00 Reading comprehension strategies as scaffolding
    21:00 Using interactive read-alouds
    24:00 Concept mapping and word walls
    26:00 Vocabulary is the tip of the iceberg
    28:00 Multilingual learners
    37:00 Research on knowledge building
    *Timestamps are approximate, rounded to nearest minute



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