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In this episode, Brian Ondrako breaks down the real reason most people quit too early: the emotional plateau between “starting” and “seeing results.”

We cover Brian’s journey from years of avoiding the first episode to building a 400-episode archive, interviewing legends like Seth Godin and Jason Fried, and teaching founders how to sell with confidence, empathy, and presence.

CONNECT WITH BRIAN🌐 Website: https://brianondrako.com/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianondrako/📰 Newsletter: https://salesskillsforfounders.beehiiv.com/

CONNECT WITH ANDY🌐 Website: https://www.mmgdesign.net/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindfulmilligan/

TIMESTAMPS00:00 — Intro02:20 — The myth of “starting is hardest”06:40 — Brian’s 3-year delay before episode one12:00 — Comparing yourself to giants online15:31 — Action creates mood20:45 — The evolution of Brian’s hosting style27:10 — Seth Godin on imposter syndrome34:10 — The mindset of asking big guests40:49 — Why founders struggle with sales47:32 — The messy middle of entrepreneurship56:30 — Where to find Brian online

TEAM🎙 Host // Andy Milligan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/🎥 Production // MMG Design: https://www.mmgdesign.net/🤝 Powered by // AMA Columbus: https://amacolumbus.org