In this conversation, Jamie and Raz explore the Kingdom adventure that opens up when we follow God the Father into assignments that are bigger than our strength, skill, or experience. Using the story of Moses and the burning bush (Exodus 3–4), they highlight how Yahweh calls Moses to confront Pharaoh—a task far beyond Moses’ natural capacity.

Instead of telling Moses to get more training, build a better résumé, or take a leadership course, God gives him a single promise: “I will be with you.” That promise becomes the bridge across the gap between human weakness and divine calling.

Key Ideas
1) The Gap Is Where the Adventure Lives
God routinely invites His children into spaces where their own capacity is not enough. The “gap” between what I can do and what God is asking is the very place where Kingdom adventure is born.

2) God Doesn’t Solve Moses’ Insecurity With Self-Improvement
Moses argues that he’s inadequate, unskilled, and not up for the job. Yahweh’s solution isn’t: “Improve yourself.”
It’s: “My presence fills the gap.”

3) Don’t Play It Safe
Many believers limit themselves to things they can succeed at based purely on natural strength. Jesus invites us into a life where obedience requires His presence—where if He doesn’t show up… we can’t pull it off.

4) Courage Looks Like Neediness, Not Self-Confidence
We often feel nervous, afraid of failing, or afraid of looking foolish. But the right posture isn’t “I’ve got this”—it’s “Father, I need You.”
That needy dependence is where faith is formed and where the Kingdom breaks in.

5) Unless Jesus Shows Up…
Following God often looks like stepping into something where, unless Jesus intervenes, it won’t work. That’s not recklessness—that’s trust.

Practical Encouragement for Listeners
Notice where God may be inviting you into something beyond your ability.
Don’t disqualify yourself because you don’t feel capable.
Let your nervousness be a reminder: the adventure is supposed to be bigger than you.
Step into obedience with the confidence that He is with you—the same promise He gave Moses.

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Resources & Contact Info

Email Raz & Jamie: razwithhim@gmail.com

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Jamie’s book, Friendship with God
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