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S1, E3: Natalie Lue, author of The Joy of Saying No

S1, E3: Natalie Lue, author of The Joy of Saying No

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People-pleasing. Burnout. Boundaries that keep getting crossed. This week, Esme and Kareem sit down with author, artist, and boundary-whisperer Natalie Lue (The Joy of Saying No) for a candid, funny, and deeply moving conversation about reclaiming your time, energy, and self-respect. Natalie shares how blogging transformed her life, the surprising health diagnosis that proved the power of listening to her gut, and why “no” isn’t selfish — it’s survival. Expect book talk (from comfort reads to transformative non-fiction), self-publishing secrets, and straight-talking advice on living authentically without apology.

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