Episodes

  • Community 03: Overcoming Shame — The Ancient Enemy of Community (featuring Dr. Curt Thompson)
    May 20 2025

    What is the main culprit behind so much disconnection and damage in our relationships? Join John Mark Comer and Shelbi Shutt as they explore the universal experience of shame, featuring conversations with everyday people in the West, testimonials from real-life practitioners, and an interview with shame expert Dr. Curt Thompson.


    In this episode’s luminary interview, John Mark and Dr. Thompson discuss the degrees of disconnection and damage caused by shame and how we can address this ancient enemy to connection. Dr. Thompson is a psychiatrist, speaker, and the author of The Soul of Shame. You can explore more of his work at curtthompsonmd.com and connect with him @curtthompsonmd.


    This podcast accompanies the Community Practice, a four-session experience designed to help you cultivate community in the Way of Jesus. Learn more at practicingtheway.org/community.


    Our Practices are free, thanks to the generosity of The Circle and other givers. Learn more about The Circle at practicingtheway.org/give. Run a Practice with your community and find other resources at practicingtheway.org/resources.

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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Community 02: Family Systems and Life in Community (featuring Jay and Danielle Pathak)
    May 13 2025

    Is Grandpa really in my bones? Join John Mark Comer and Shelbi Shutt as they explore the topic of Family Systems, featuring conversations with everyday people in the West, testimonials from real-life practitioners, and an interview with luminaries Jay and Danielle Pathak.


    In this episode’s luminary interview, John Mark, Jay, and Danielle explore Family Systems Theory — how we carry our family dynamics into all our relationships and the impact that community can have in fostering our awareness and healing. Jay and Danielle are church planters and are both in national leadership of the Vineyard USA. Jay is the co-author of The Art of Neighboring with Dave Runyon. You can connect with them @jayrpathak and @dpathak33.


    The Genogram can be a helpful next step for increasing awareness of your family origins and understanding what you may be carrying forward from your family into your present-day relationships. You can download our free Genogram Workbook at https://practicingthewayarchives.org/dealing-with-your-past/genogram-workbook.


    This podcast accompanies the Community Practice, a four-session experience designed to help you cultivate community in the Way of Jesus. Learn more at practicingtheway.org/community.


    Our Practices are free, thanks to the generosity of The Circle and other givers. Learn more about The Circle at practicingtheway.org/give. Run a Practice with your community and find other resources at practicingtheway.org/resources.

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    55 mins
  • Community 01: Rediscovering Jesus’ Vision for Family (featuring Andy Crouch)
    May 6 2025

    How can we cultivate the deep relationships Jesus invites us toward in an age of isolation, transience, and superficiality? Join John Mark Comer and Shelbi Shutt as they explore the topic of kinship groups, featuring conversations with everyday people in the West, testimonials from real-life practitioners, and an interview with luminary Andy Crouch.


    In this episode’s luminary interview, John Mark and Andy explore the evolution of radically familial relationships in the Early Church community and the devolution of community in the West. Andy is a partner for theology and culture at Praxis, and author of The Life We're Looking For: Reclaiming Relationship in a Technological World. You can explore more of his work at andy-crouch.com and connect with him @ahcpix.


    Table Conversations is a beautifully designed set of cards with 100 questions to help your community connect around life, faith, and formation. You can purchase your set at practicingtheway.org/tableconversations.


    This podcast accompanies the Community Practice, a four-session experience designed to help you cultivate community in the Way of Jesus. Learn more at practicingtheway.org/community.


    Our Practices are free, thanks to the generosity of The Circle and other givers. Learn more about The Circle at practicingtheway.org/give. Run a Practice with your community and find other resources at practicingtheway.org/resources.

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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • Scripture 04: Reading Scripture as a Spiritual Discipline
    Feb 25 2025

    John Mark and guests Dr. Tim Mackie, Dr. Brittany Kim, and Hakeem Bradley explore what it means to read Scripture as a spiritual discipline and why, as apprentices of Jesus, reading is ultimately about following him and becoming like him.

    Reading Scripture aloud in groups, a tradition rooted in early house churches, allowed for a shared, transformative encounter with Scripture — and it’s a practice we can rediscover today. Whether done privately or corporately, reading longer sections and reading aloud help us capture the literary design and thematic unity often missed in fragmented readings.

    This podcast accompanies the Scripture Practice, a four-session experience designed to help your community read the Bible as apprentices of Jesus. Learn more at practicingtheway.org/scripture.

    Our Practices are free, thanks to the generosity of The Circle and other givers. Learn more about The Circle at practicingtheway.org/give. Run a Practice with your community and find other resources at practicingtheway.org/resources.

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    29 mins
  • Scripture 03: Unlocking the Wisdom of Scripture
    Feb 18 2025

    John Mark and BibleProject’s Dr. Tim Mackie, Dr. Brittany Kim, and Hakeem Bradley discuss what it means to approach Scripture as “wisdom literature” and “meditation literature.”

    Wisdom literature encourages readers to internalize God’s values, making decisions that promote flourishing for themselves and others. Meditation literature invites readers to slow down, immerse themselves in Scripture, and allow its truths to permeate us to the extent that they transform how we interact with others.

    This podcast accompanies the Scripture Practice, a four-session experience designed to help your community read the Bible as apprentices of Jesus. Learn more at practicingtheway.org/scripture.

    Our Practices are free, thanks to the generosity of The Circle and other givers. Learn more about The Circle at practicingtheway.org/give. Run a Practice with your community and find other resources at practicingtheway.org/resources.

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    56 mins
  • Scripture 02: Scripture as a Cross-Cultural Experience
    Feb 11 2025

    BibleProject’s Dr. Tim Mackie, Dr. Brittany Kim, and Hakeem Bradley continue a conversation with John Mark around BibleProject’s seven-part paradigm for understanding Scripture.

    Episode 02 addresses common struggles with interpreting ancient texts, such as reconciling difficult laws or cultural norms with modern values, and how to approach puzzling or morally complex passages with patience and respect for their historical and cultural settings. This episode also explores the messianic theme woven throughout the library of Scripture and why scholars refer to the Bible as a unified story that points to Jesus.

    This podcast accompanies the Scripture Practice, a four-session experience designed to help your community read the Bible as apprentices of Jesus. Learn more at practicingtheway.org/scripture.

    Our Practices are free, thanks to the generosity of The Circle and other givers. Learn more about The Circle at practicingtheway.org/give. Run a Practice with your community and find other resources at practicingtheway.org/resources.

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    43 mins
  • Scripture 01: Three Problematic Approaches to Scripture
    Feb 4 2025

    In this first episode of the Scripture season of the Rule of Life podcast, John Mark is joined by BibleProject scholars Dr. Tim Mackie, Dr. Brittany Kim, and Hakeem Bradley for a conversation on the nature of Scripture and our relationship with it.

    Common traditional approaches to Scripture — such as the “reference book” approach, the “domesticated grab-bag” approach, and others — can limit our understanding and enjoyment of this complex library of texts. BibleProject is guided by a seven-part paradigm in their understanding of Scripture, and the first “pillar” is to understand the Bible as “human and divine literature.”

    This podcast accompanies the Scripture Practice, a four-session experience designed to help your community read the Bible as apprentices of Jesus. Learn more at practicingtheway.org/scripture.

    Our Practices are free, thanks to the generosity of The Circle and other givers. Learn more about The Circle at practicingtheway.org/give. Run a Practice with your community and find other resources at practicingtheway.org/resources.

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    47 mins
  • Generosity 06: Roundtable with John Cortines, Jimmy Mellado, Sara Miller, and Christian Huang
    Oct 29 2024

    In this second roundtable on Generosity, John Mark is joined by John Cortines, co-author of God and Money; Jimmy Mellado, president of Compassion International; Sara Miller, founder of A House on Beekman and partner at Praxis Labs; and Christian Huang, president of Mobilize Love.

    This wide-ranging conversation explores nuanced issues around giving and generosity, including tithing, serving the poor regardless of proximity to need, “high-touch” versus “low-touch” involvement, and how to take simple steps in the face of overwhelming inequality.

    This podcast accompanies the Generosity Practice, a four-session experience designed to help integrate generosity into your community. Learn more at practicingtheway.org/generosity. Thanks to The Circle and other givers, all our resources are free. To learn more about The Circle, visit practicingtheway.org/give. To run a Practice with your church or small group, visit practicingtheway.org/resources

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    1 hr and 6 mins