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Resourcing, recruitment and responsibilities | How trust is defining new models for teams and roles for individuals - with Jon Watton and Tom Howe

Resourcing, recruitment and responsibilities | How trust is defining new models for teams and roles for individuals - with Jon Watton and Tom Howe

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In this episode of Trust and Influence in B2B Marketing, Joel Harrison sits down with Jon Watton, Fractional CMO and experienced B2B tech marketing leader, and Tom Howe from Jefferson Group, to explore one of the most pressing issues facing the industry: the future of B2B marketing roles, team structures, and organizational trust. Marketing headcounts are shrinking, recruitment has stalled, and the rules of the job market have fundamentally shifted. So is this a crisis — or simply a long overdue correction?➡️ Jon and Tom bring two sharply different perspectives — one from inside the market navigating it as a senior marketer, the other from a front-row seat in hiring across B2B. Together, they dig into the post-COVID hiring hangover, the intense pressure to deliver short-term results at the expense of long-term strategy, and how AI is reshaping both what marketing teams look like and what's expected of them. They also explore why fractional leadership is emerging as a new model of trust, the growing danger of a "squashed middle" in marketing management, and what the B2B marketing team of the future will actually look like. Both guests close with direct, actionable advice on what marketers should be doing right now to future-proof their careers.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction: Trust and the Future of B2B Marketing Roles 01:03 - How Recruitment Signals Trust in Marketing 01:42 - Introducing Jon Watton and Tom Howe 02:24 - The Reality of the Senior B2B Marketing Job Market 05:26 - A Generational Shift or a Post-COVID Hangover? 08:07 - Identity Crisis: What Do Companies Actually Want from Marketing? 11:37 - Short-Term Pressure vs. Long-Term Strategy 16:31 - How Marketing Team Structures Are Changing 19:41 - The Rise of Specialists and the Diamond-Shaped Team 24:05 - The Squashed Middle: Pressure on Marketing Managers 26:17 - AI, Human Judgment, and the Trust Equation 29:15 - Trust Declining in Human Marketers — or Just Cost Pressure? 31:40 - The Future Marketing Leader and AI Fluency 34:18 - Fractional, Freelance, and Flexible: New Models for Teams 38:41 - The Rise of B2B Marketing Agencies Again 40:59 - Career Advice: What Marketers Should Do Now 43:17 - Closing Thoughts and What's Coming NextFollow Jon Watton, https://linkedin.com/in/jonwattonFollow Tom Howe, https://linkedin.com/in/tomhowe https://jeffersongroup.co.ukIf you care about making B2B marketing more meaningful, useful, and memorable, this conversation is for you. It's honest, reflective, and packed with takeaways that can help elevate your approach to thought leadership---whether you're a content creator, strategist, or brand leader.🌐Visit Joel Harrison's website to explore exclusive reports, upcoming events, and join the B2B marketing community ➡️ https://www.joelharrisonb2b.com/💬What do you think comes first---rebuilding trust in marketing or proving ROI? Let us know in the comments below.🔔Subscribe to the channel for weekly insights, interviews, and on-the-ground perspectives from the world of B2B marketing. https://youtube.com/@JoelHarrison-B2B?sub_confirmation=1---------------📲Follow Joel Harrison and Trust & Influence in B2B across the web: LinkedIn ▶ https://linkedin.com/in/joelharrison/ Podcast ▶ https://trust-influence-in-b2b.captivate.fm/ Instagram ▶ https://instagram.com/joelharrisonb2b/---------------#JoelHarrisonB2B, #B2BMarketing, #ThoughtLeadership, #ContentStrategy, #MarketingTrends, #B2BContent, #BrandVsDemand, #Storytelling, #MarketingPodcast, #B2BInsights, #JoelHarrison, #B2BVideos, #B2BStrategy, #MarketingRecruitment, #FractionalCMO, #MarketingLeadership, #AIinMarketing, #B2BTeams, #MarketingCareers, #FutureOfMarketing
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