This is not so much Part 2 of our tribute to Juliet Robertson, but more of a separate podcast in its own right.

We found that Mark Paterson had so much to contribute to our first episode, that we never managed to fit it all in, so we invited him back!

Mark is the curator at Aberdeen’s Cruikshank Botanical Garden, and you can hear the story of how he and Juliet met and how they worked so perfectly as a team. Between them they have made it a real centre of learning.

On this episode Mark is joined by Mandy Tulloch, an outdoor learning specialist in Aberdeenshire who runs Mud Pie Adventures, weekly nature classes for 2 to 5-year-olds and works in four primary schools in Aberdeen, using their grounds to support children’s development and learning.

Given that background we focus on outdoor learning, but, inevitably, we range more widely. It is another warm, lively conversation that really adds to our earlier tribute to Juliet.

Find out more about some of the things we mention here:

Mud Pie Adventures: https://www.mudpieadventures.co.uk/

Cruikshank Botanical Garden: https://www.abdn.ac.uk/about/campus/old-aberdeen/cruickshank-botanic-garden/

Juliet Robertson, awarded honorary degree by Queen Margaret University: https://www.qmu.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/2024/20240702-outdoor-learning-trailblazer-juliet-robertson-awarded-honorary-degree-by-queen-margaret-university/