Epidosde Info

Guest: Clare Garner — creator of Real & Raw Revolution; founder of Speak to Scale Agency + Speak to Scale Magazine; host of Raw & Real Podcast*Theme:* Ditching perfection, choosing truth, and letting voice (not polish) lead growth

Length: ~55 minutes

Content notes: Discussion of abusive relationship, healing, and liberation

Clare Garner gets deeply real about leaving a 15-year abusive relationship, rebuilding her identity, and birthing the Real & Raw movement that helps women lead with voice over varnish. She breaks down fear as a safety mechanism, why perfection is dead weight, how “failing faster” collapses timelines, and the exact moment Real & Raw “dropped in” (yep—red lipstick and a mirror!). If you’ve ever watered down your message to fit, this is your permission slip to stop performing and start telling the truth..

Key Themes & Takeaways

• Fear vs. truth: Fear often prefers the known pain over the unknown possibility. Move anyway.
• Voice over visibility: Visibility without authenticity feels empty; voice converts because it connects.
• Radical self-permission: Drop “shoulds,” choose desire, and let direction reveal itself after commitment.
• Fail fast, learn faster: “Data, not drama.” Iteration is the fastest path to clarity.
• Identity work: Be careful what follows “I am…”—identity sets your ceiling.
• Community & stages: Real & Raw stages invite unscripted truth that sells without selling.

Guest Insights (Clare’s big ideas)

💡 On fear: It’s your system trying to keep you “safe,” even when safety = small.

💡 On pivoting: Your frequency changes when you decide; that’s when the how shows up.

💡 On perfection: People don’t want perfect; they want to feel you.

💡 On leadership: It’s not about the polish; it’s about the human behind the brand.

Heather’s Reflection

Clare reminded me that courage isn’t the absence of fear—it’s choosing truth anyway. The more I move from desire (not duty), the faster my next “right step” shows up. I’m done performing; voice first, always.

Resources and Mentions

Clare's website and magazine: https://speaktoscale.co.uk/

Real and Raw LIBERATION, Austin Feb 2026: https://speaktoscale.co.uk/real-and-raw-liberation#real-and-raw-liberation

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