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A shattered leg, a flesh-eating infection, and a choice between amputation and the long road back—Alex Smith takes us inside the most honest definition of resilience you’ll hear this year. We trace the arc from No. 1 pick expectations and imposter syndrome in San Francisco, to Jim Harbaugh’s liberating “don’t worry” message, to Andy Reid’s aggressive philosophy in Kansas City that reignited confidence. Alex opens up about mentoring Patrick Mahomes while staying present as the starter, early Travis Kelce and the tough love that shaped him, and why leadership is really about clarity, consistency, and letting people be themselves.

The conversation hits a new gear with the Washington injury: the spiral fracture, septic shock, and necrotizing infection that nearly cost him his leg. Alex details the limb salvage surgeries, the external fixator, and how military medicine at the Center for the Intrepid—and its “group suck” culture—changed his mindset. Hearing his surgeon say “you’re good to go” brought fear, not relief, until his wife reframed the moment: the man in the hospital bed would have begged for this chance. Then came the first hit back—Aaron Donald on his back—and the most powerful play of his career: standing up.

We also dive into the state of quarterback play today—processing vs. arm talent, defensive disguises, and why pure progressions matter. Alex spotlights underappreciated excellence from CJ Stroud, Justin Herbert, and Brock Purdy, Matthew Stafford and breaks down how elite rooms build trust, accountability, and freedom. This is a masterclass in mindset, leadership, and what it means to play for something bigger than applause.

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In Real Ones: The League presented by Experian with Fred Warner and Derwin James You Will See:

LA Chargers All-Pro Safety Derwin James joins San Francisco 49ers All-Pro Linebacker Fred Warner for a raw, unfiltered conversation. From the "Jim Harbaugh Effect" that turned the Chargers around to Justin Herbert's toughness and leadership playing through a broken hand after surgery, Derwin opens up about the culture.

In this episode, we dig into the daily habits that turn close games into wins and why the Chargers defense rallies around Derwin's Be The Best "BTB" Mantra. Derwin drops his Top NFL Safeties list — giving high praise to Kyle Hamilton (Ravens), Brian Branch (Lions), Xavier McKinney (Packers) and Nick Emmanwori (Seahawks) — and the two discuss Philip Rivers' comeback with the Colts as a Grandfather. Plus, we get a viral moment when Derwin FaceTimes Chargers' linebacker Daiyan Henley mid-show who picks up mid-massage to prove he's a REAL BFF.

Finally, Fred Warner opens up about his ankle recovery, the San Francisco 49ers' mindset coming off the bye week, and the reality of leading from the sidelines.

Topics Discussed:

Top NFL Safeties: Derwin James and Fred Warner show love to Kyle Hamilton, Brian Branch, Xavier McKinney, and Nick Emmanwori.

Jim Harbaugh: Why he calls Derwin the "best safety in NFL history" and the culture shift in LA.

Justin Herbert: The "Superman" toughness playing post-surgery in their recent Monday Night Football win against the reining NFL Super Champion Philadelphia Eagles.

Fred Warner Injury: Recovery update and the 49ers' playoff push.

CHAPTERS:

00:00 - Derwin James & Fred Warner Reunited & Reflect on 2018 NFL Draft
01:45 - What "Be The Best" Really Means (BTB)
05:30 - The Jim Harbaugh Effect: How the Chargers Culture Changed
09:15 - Justin Herbert’s Toughness (Playing Through Injury)
14:20 - Derwin James Ranks His Top NFL Safeties (Hamilton, Branch, McKinney, Emmanwori)
18:45 - Philip Rivers Colts Comeback: "The Grandfather of the NFL"
22:30 - Viral Moment: Derwin Facetimes Daiyan Henley
28:10 - Fred Warner Ankle Injury Update: Recovery Timeline
32:00 - Fatherhood, Faith & The Future

Join the Conversation: Derwin included Kyle Hamilton, Brian Branch, Xavier McKinney, and Nick Emmanwori in his list of Top NFL Safeties this season... who would you include on your list? Let us know in the comments! 👇

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Step inside the mind of future Pro Football Hall of Fame linebacker Von Miller as he joins the 49ers' All-Pro Fred Warner on Real Ones: The League. Von, a 2-time Super Bowl Champion and Super Bowl MVP, gets incredibly candid about the relentless pursuit of greatness, the challenges of devastating career-defining injuries, and the all-consuming love for the game of football.

This is a masterclass in elite NFL mindset, as two of the game's best talk shop about dominating the pass rush, the "luck" needed to win a Super Bowl, and what it truly takes to last 15+ seasons in the NFL.

🔥 In This Episode:

• Competitive Fire: The mindset that creates a GOAT, and why Von still plays with his hair on fire.
• Redemption Stories: Von's experience with two devastating ACL tears and the philosophy that fueled his return.
• The QB Talk: Candid thoughts on Quarterback leadership, from Peyton Manning and Matthew Stafford to Josh Allen and Jayden Daniels.
• Off-Field Passions: The 9-year journey of Von Miller’s "Greener Pastures" Chicken Farm business venture.
• Life Balance: The critical role of family in maintaining elite NFL performance.
• Rivalry & Film: Inside the 49ers vs. Rams rivalry and how coaches use the "Red Dot" to identify top players on film.
• BFF Challenge: Fred challenges Von with a surprise live call in the "Call Your BFF" segment, presented by Experian.

Fred Warner and Von Miller cover: NFL defense, Super Bowl predictions, defensive pass rush techniques, player durability, and the best football mindset for lasting success.

Listen in for an exclusive look at the work ethic and passion that fuels true NFL icons!

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⏱️ Episode Chapters:

• 0:00 - Introduction: Von Miller - The Living Legend
• 2:45 - High-Level Respect: Von on Fred’s Game and the 'Red Dot' on Film
• 5:30 - The Competitive Fire That Makes a GOAT
• 8:15 - Life in the Commanders' Locker Room, Jayden Daniels, and Current Team Struggles
• 10:50 - Injury Mindset: The Redemption Story
• 16:20 - Top 5 Pass Rushers in the NFL Right Now (Von’s List)
• 19:40 - The 9-Year Journey of Von Miller’s Chicken Farm (Greener Pastures)
• 23:10 - The Wife and Kids Factor: Why Family is Essential to Elite NFL Performance
• 25:00 - The 49ers vs. Rams Rivalry & the 2021 NFC Championship
• 30:45 - The Truth About Quarterback Leadership
• 35:10 - Fred Warner on the "Identity" of Football
• 40:00 - Life After Football: Mindset of an Entrepreneur
• 42:30 - The Super Bowl Team Blueprint (Eagles/49ers/Rams)
• 45:50 - BFF Facetime Challenge (Von Calls a Fellow Super Bowl Champ, Brandon McManus)

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