Episodes

  • Economic Briefing with Glenn Hubbard and Abby Joseph Cohen: A Special Season Finale
    Dec 17 2025

    In this special episode of the Real Estate Forum podcast, two of Columbia Business School’s most distinguished economists, Glenn Hubbard, Dean Emeritus of Columbia Business School, and Abby Joseph Cohen, Professor at Columbia Business School and former Chief Investment Strategist at Goldman Sachs, came together on December 2, 2025, for a timely economic briefing at the 18th Annual Columbia Business School Real Estate Symposium on Columbia Business School’s Manhattanville campus.


    In a wide-ranging and candid conversation, Glenn and Abby examine the state of the U.S. and global economy through the lens of real estate. They discuss the macroeconomic forces shaping capital markets, the evolving policy environment, interest rate expectations, and the structural shifts influencing asset values and long-term investment strategies. The discussion highlights both the headwinds and opportunities facing real estate investors, owners, and operators as they navigate today’s complex economic landscape.

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    57 mins
  • From Market Cycles to Digital Infrastructure: Adam Gallistel on Co-Leading CBRE Investment Management
    Dec 10 2025

    In this episode of the Real Estate Forum, host Raphael Sidelsky interviews Adam Gallistel, co-CEO and CIO of CBRE Investment Management. They discuss Adam's experience in global real assets investment, his insights on market cycles, and CBRE IM's strategic positioning in the evolving landscape of real assets. Adam shares his thoughts on the importance of humility, preparation, and flexibility in investing, as well as the cultural and strategic advantages of CBRE IM. The conversation also covers the opportunities in digital infrastructure, the US and European real estate markets, and the potential for retail capital inflows into alternatives.


    00:00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
    00:05:00 Adam's Experience and Insights
    00:10:00 Investment Philosophy and Strategy
    00:15:00 Opportunities in Digital Infrastructure
    00:20:00 US and European Real Estate Markets
    00:25:00 Retail Capital and Future Trends
    00:30:00 Career Advice and Personal Insights
    00:35:00 Conclusion and Closing Remarks

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    41 mins
  • Transforming Iconic Properties: Jonah Sonnenborn and Access Industries’ Global Portfolio
    Nov 26 2025

    In this episode of the Real Estate Forum, host Raphael Sidelsky sits down with Jonah Sonnenborn, Head of Real Estate at Access Industries, to discuss his journey from investment banking to leading a global real estate portfolio. Jonah shares Access Industries’ strategic approach to building and managing iconic properties worldwide, highlighting landmark projects such as Faena District, One High Line, The Ocean Club, and Grand Hotel du Cap Ferrat.


    The conversation covers the role of placemaking in creating lasting value, the balance between trophy assets and recurring platform plays, and the importance of long-term vision, hands-on leadership, and strategic partnerships in shaping the future of global real estate investing.

    Photography Credit: Jonah Sonnenborn photo by Sasha Maslov.
    Chapters:

    (00:00:00) Introduction to the Real Estate Forum
    (00:00:35) Meet Jonah Sonnenborn
    (00:02:16) From Investment Banking to Real Estate
    (00:07:59) Building Access Industries’ Real Estate Platform
    (00:08:51) Case Studies: Faena District and One High Line
    (00:13:29) The Ocean Club and Grand Hotel du Cap Ferrat
    (00:16:45) Balancing Trophy Assets and Platform Plays
    (00:19:04) Navigating Real Estate Challenges
    (00:20:06) The Role of Placemaking
    (00:20:56) Team Building and Strategic Partnerships

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    29 mins
  • Madison International Realty’s Ron Dickerman on Scaling Liquidity Solutions, Global Capital Flows, and Real Estate’s Next Chapter
    Nov 12 2025

    In this episode of the Real Estate Forum, host Raphael Sidelsky sits down with Ron Dickerman, the founder and President of Madison International Realty, to discuss how he pioneered and scaled liquidity solutions in an asset class long considered illiquid. Ron shares Madison's journey from a niche strategy to a global institutional platform—highlighting key investments in iconic properties, the firm's innovative approach to providing liquidity for real estate investors, and its expansion across the U.S., Europe, and Asia.


    The conversation explores the intersection of real estate and technology, the evolution of global markets, and the growing importance of partnerships in shaping the future of real estate as a dynamic, global, and investable asset class.

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    (00:00:00) Introduction and Guest Introduction - Meet Ron Dickerman, founder of Madison International Realty, and learn about his early influences in real estate.

    (00:03:00) Early Exposure to Real Estate - Ron shares how his father's career in real estate shaped his own path.

    (00:09:00) Founding of Madison International Realty - Discover the origins of Madison and its focus on liquidity solutions.

    (00:15:00) Strategic Investments and Iconic Buildings - Explore Madison's investments in landmark properties like the Seagram Building.

    (00:21:00) Global Expansion and Market Trends- Ron discusses Madison's global reach and the evolving real estate market.

    (00:27:00) Intersection of Real Estate and Technology - Insights into how technology is transforming real estate strategies.

    (00:33:00) Partnerships and Growth Capital - The role of partnerships in Madison's growth and investment strategies.

    (00:39:00) Future Vision and Conclusion - Ron's vision for the future of real estate and Madison's ongoing evolution.

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    38 mins
  • Transforming NYC : Melissa Roman Burch and the New York City Economic Development Corporation
    Oct 29 2025

    In this episode of The Real Estate Forum, host Raphael Sidelsky sits down with Melissa Roman Burch, Chief Operating Officer of the New York City Economic Development Corporation (NYCEDC), to discuss her leadership in shaping New York City’s real estate and economic future. Melissa shares insights into how public-private partnerships are driving transformative projects such as the redevelopment of Willets Point and the Brooklyn Marine Terminal. She also delves into the city’s housing strategy, including zoning reforms, tax incentives, and efforts to convert underutilized office spaces into residential units. Throughout the conversation, Melissa emphasizes the city’s commitment to leveraging its real estate assets to promote affordable housing, economic recovery, and long-term resilience across all five boroughs.

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    (00:00:00) Introduction and Melissa Burch's Background

    (00:05:00) Public-Private Partnerships and Economic Recovery

    (00:10:00) Strategic Investments in Key Sectors

    (00:15:00) Housing Initiatives and Zoning Reforms

    (00:20:00) Tax Incentives and Real Estate Development

    (00:25:00) Innovation and Diversified Economy

    (00:30:00) Personal Philosophy and Growth Mindset

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    48 mins
  • Blackstone President Jon Gray on Strategic Discipline, AI, and Leadership
    Oct 15 2025

    In this special episode of the Real Estate Forum, Jon Gray, President and Chief Operating Officer of Blackstone, joins Professor Brian Lancaster, Senior Lecturer in the Discipline of Finance, for a candid fireside chat hosted at Columbia Business School on April 29, 2025, as part of the Capital Markets series, co-sponsored by the Distinguished Speaker Series. The conversation traces Gray’s journey from joining Blackstone in 1992 to leading its evolution into a $1.2 trillion investment firm and explores the principles behind its long-term success, including a relentless focus on performance, talent, and strategic discipline. Gray shares insights on Blackstone’s early conviction in AI and digital infrastructure, the rise of private credit, and how real-time portfolio data informs investment decisions. He also offers practical advice on leadership, culture, and embracing an entrepreneurial mindset in any career path.

    00:00 - 02:00: Introduction to the Real Estate Forum podcast and the special guest, Jon Gray, President and COO of Blackstone.

    02:01 - 05:00: Jon Gray discusses his early career and the influence of Blackstone's culture on his professional growth.

    05:01 - 10:00: Insights on Blackstone's strategic growth, including the role of data and AI in driving innovation.

    10:01 - 15:00: Jon Gray shares personal anecdotes about his journey from Chicago to Blackstone and the importance of passion in career success.

    15:01 - 20:00: Discussion on the challenges faced during the financial crisis and the lessons learned from investing in Hilton Hotels.

    20:01 - 25:00: Thematic investing at Blackstone, focusing on data centers and the future of AI.

    25:01 - 30:00: Jon Gray's perspective on private credit and its role in Blackstone's portfolio.

    30:01 - 35:00: Philanthropy and personal values: Jon Gray talks about his charitable initiatives and the impact of focused giving.

    35:01 - 40:00: Closing thoughts and advice for aspiring leaders in the real estate industry.

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    52 mins
  • Global Real Estate, Wellness Design & Family Office Strategy with Sabine Gaedeke Stener
    Oct 1 2025

    Host Raphael Sidelsky talks with Sabine Gaedeke Stener—CEO of Elbe River Partners, Gaedeke Group, and Gaedeke Energy—about leading a transatlantic family office with investments in real estate, energy, private equity, and debt. Sabine shares her journey from media executive in Germany to building a vertically integrated U.S. and European portfolio rooted in placemaking, wellness, and long-term value. They discuss Gaedeke’s WellSpace™ initiative, senior and workforce housing, repositioning offices in a post-pandemic, AI-driven market, and the benefits of a diversified investment platform. From transforming a Plano cow pasture into a vibrant hub to redefining office space, Sabine offers strategies for thriving through change.

    (00:00) Introduction to Sabine Gaedeke Stener and her roles.

    (03:30) Sabine's transition from media to real estate.

    (08:00) The philosophy behind Elbe River Partners and Gaedeke Group.

    (12:15) Discussion on the WellSpace™ initiative and its impact.

    (18:00) Strategies for repositioning offices in a post-pandemic world.

    (24:00) Insights into the AI-driven market and its effects on real estate.

    (30:00) The transformation of a Plano cow pasture into a vibrant hub.

    (36:00) Benefits of a diversified investment platform.

    (42:00) Closing thoughts and future outlook

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    47 mins
  • Bonus Episode: Thematic Investing - From Canada Goose to Data Centers: Fireside Chat with Bain Capital’s Ryan Cotton
    Sep 24 2025

    In this special episode of the Real Estate Forum, host Raphael Sidelsky sits down with Ryan Cotton, Head of Bain Capital Real Estate and Head of Bain Capital Private Equity’s global Consumer vertical, for the closing keynote fireside chat from the 17th Annual Columbia Business School Real Estate Symposium, held on December 4, 2024, at Columbia’s Manhattanville campus. The conversation explores Ryan’s thematic, curiosity and consumer driven approach to investing, his views on secular demand drivers across both specialized and traditional asset classes—from life sciences and senior housing to marinas and data infrastructure—and why operational intensity and strategic partnerships are essential to generating alpha in today’s market. This episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at how one of the industry’s most thoughtful investors is reimagining what it means to build the future of real estate.

    (00:00) Introduction to the Real Estate Forum and today's special guest, Ryan Cotton.

    (02:15) Ryan's journey from studying philosophy at Princeton to working with the Boston Red Sox.

    (05:30) Transition to Bain Capital and insights into thematic and alternative investing.

    (08:45) The role of curiosity and self-knowledge in successful investing.

    (12:00) Key investment highlights, including the Canada Goose success story.

    (15:20) Discussion on thematic investing and identifying future trends in real estate.

    (18:40) Ryan's views on the current real estate cycle and macroeconomic factors.

    (22:10) The impact of AI on business practices and future implications.

    (25:30) Audience Q&A session with Ryan Cotton.

    (30:00) Exploring niche real estate opportunities and operational challenges.

    (35:00) Insights into global real estate allocation: US vs. Europe vs. Asia.

    (40:00) The importance of competitive advantage in real estate investing.

    (45:00) Final thoughts on the future of real estate and closing remarks

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    49 mins