Anxiety doesn’t always come from danger, it often comes from false needs. In this REVERB episode, Andy Stanley and co-host Suzy Gray reflect on last week’s conversation with Steve Cuss to explore how unseen anxieties shape leadership decisions. From perfectionism and control to approval-seeking, they discuss the triggers that cause leaders to power up or pull back under pressure. Andy shares practical insights on lowering the emotional temperature, choosing clarity when certainty isn’t possible, and leading with calm presence when everyone is looking for answers—so fear doesn’t set the direction.

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